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Old 05-21-10, 04:39 PM   #11
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Unfortunately gentlemen - none of these recommendations will ever happen.


You have a president and a congress in power who LOVE to bend to the will of these illegal's "plight".

Your president is more likely to push through an emergency amnesty bill than he is to sign tougher immigration laws.

Without a hot war - California is LOST. she ceases to be a State in any regards other than inclusion on our maps... it is a territory of Mexico now and that is a sad fact we must all face.

If you tried for mass deportations etc the entire Mexican Republic of California would erupt into violence.

The United States Military... and i do mean virtually every branch, would be involved in an 18-24 month campaign of enforcement in a land mass slightly larger in land area than Germany.

There are enough illegal Mexicans in the Los Angeles area alone (and legal Immigrants sympathetic to their situation) to burn that entire city to the ground from end to end.

Combine this with the fact that there are untold scores of legal and illegal firearms and a populace of desperate people... there will be blood.

Lets look at some history here.

Prior to the mid 1800s much of the present day Southwestern United States was Mexican Territory.

TEXAS- when the Mexican government removed almost all restrictions to legal immigration into its Northern Territory known as Texas there came a great deal of white settlers into the region. Within a matter of just a couple of years those white settlers were the majority, they held the population majority and they represented the majority of land owners, business owners etc.

One day, these men felt like they were being treated unfairly by Mexico, and fought for their independence - an independence which they eventually won. Texas formed it's own independent republic, and eventually accepted statehood into the United States. many argue that this acceptance of statehood was formed because Texans felt it would help protect them from future Mexican aggression.

California shares a very similar history as do much of the areas of the Southwest.

now... these illegal immigrants dont feel like they are breaking a law.

many of them probably feel like they are "taking back what is rightfully theirs"

problem is - they lost it all in a number of political gambles and wars and insurrections - fair and square.

The question is - what sort of leadership must we elect and what sort of things do we need to do to keep this from happening to Arizona, New Mexico and Texas?

Arizona is headed down the right path.

will we follow her?

we should, lest we place ourselves in a position to lose everything.

No i dont know how most Texans feel... But i'll be massacred in Goliad, Texas and gunned down in San Antonio or fight tooth and nail in San Jacinto before I'll willfully see the Mexican Flag (or the French or Spanish flags) fly over this land ever again.
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