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swdw 05-20-10 08:49 AM

More than Mexicans crossing the border (Maybe AZ has the right idea)
 
Actual, honest to God, investigative journalism.

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html
http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html

Should pass this on before the links expire.

Besides the mid east personnel captured, they briefly mention 20% of the
people caught have criminal records. And yet, people are talking about
blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants??? Bet the cartels would love for that to happen.

AVGWarhawk 05-20-10 09:37 AM

This is a long time coming swdw. Eventually we need to say stop. The folks in AZ have had enough. The Fed has turned a blind eye to drugs, murder and weapons filtering over the boarder. Not to mention the kidnapping. The real icing here is the others who cross the boarders looking to commit terrorist acts.

Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

SteamWake 05-20-10 10:00 AM

What gets me is that this has been going on for 20 years or more.

All of a sudden its an 'issue' because Arizona took steps to be able to enforce existing federal law and now it's a huge shocking issue.

AVGWarhawk 05-20-10 10:12 AM

Well, that is part of it SW. More recently though the drugs, weapons and kidnapping have really gone haywire...not to mention the murders of the US citizens that live close to the boarder. In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

You are correct, the law has been around....start enforcing it and get in trouble. Makes no sense. I'm glad AZ finally took a stand...it makes DC wake up to the problem that is growing in leaps and bounds.

Tchocky 05-20-10 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1398195)
Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

Mm, some in the WH weren't too happy with the choice of healthcare as legislative priority #1. Immigration reform was seen as something a lot less risky, easier to get broad support on, and quicker to produce results.
I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.

EDIT - just saw your last post. AZ's move will definitely put the urgency level up.

SteamWake 05-20-10 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 1398455)
I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.

I've been saying that only using another word for a while now.

Weiss Pinguin 05-20-10 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1398221)
In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

That's the bit that scares me (not the other others aren't a big concern). If we just let them do as they please, who knows what kind of bullcrap will be going on at the border (or not even that far south) in five, ten, fifteen years?

FIREWALL 05-20-10 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1398195)
This is a long time coming swdw. Eventually we need to say stop. The folks in AZ have had enough. The Fed has turned a blind eye to drugs, murder and weapons filtering over the boarder. Not to mention the kidnapping. The real icing here is the others who cross the boarders looking to commit terrorist acts.

Please note that Obama's Rose Garden speech with the President of Mexico was less than enthusiastic....in short..Obama knows this is a problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake (Post 1398211)
What gets me is that this has been going on for 20 years or more.

All of a sudden its an 'issue' because Arizona took steps to be able to enforce existing federal law and now it's a huge shocking issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1398221)
Well, that is part of it SW. More recently though the drugs, weapons and kidnapping have really gone haywire...not to mention the murders of the US citizens that live close to the boarder. In short, the illegals who are doing these activities are getting much more bolder. These are cartels now. Not good.....

You are correct, the law has been around....start enforcing it and get in trouble. Makes no sense. I'm glad AZ finally took a stand...it makes DC wake up to the problem that is growing in leaps and bounds.


Something to think about.... If you were a Judge, Prosecutor, in Law enforcement or Ran or worked in the Prison system...

Would you want a Crime Free America ? :hmmm:

These's days it makes you wonder.

Snestorm 05-20-10 03:09 PM

When a nation looses control of it's borders it ceases to be a nation.
Just something to think about.

GoldenRivet 05-20-10 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snestorm (Post 1398560)
When a nation looses control of it's borders it ceases to be a nation.
Just something to think about.

100% correct.

this has already happened, and i fear it may be too late.

Tribesman 05-20-10 03:54 PM

Quote:

I've been saying that only using another word for a while now.
Yes, you was on about a secret plot to grant instant citizenship so Obama will get millions of magic votes for his party in the upcoming mid terms.
So the other word was two words...... conspiracy theory.

Quote:

I'd say there'll be a move on immigration reform before long.
Wasn't the current President pledged to a comprehensive reform of the current ineffective programs if he got elected.

Ducimus 05-20-10 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1398620)
100% correct.

this has already happened, and i fear it may be too late.

For CA it is already too late.

Weiss Pinguin 05-20-10 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1398642)
For CA it is already too late.

As if there was ever any hope for California ;)

FIREWALL 05-20-10 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weiss Pinguin (Post 1398676)
As if there was ever any hope for California ;)


Easy to insult another persons home when, You don't have the balls to put under your Avatar where your from. :roll:

Ducimus 05-20-10 05:17 PM

Guess i should change my location to "Upland Ca" instead of davy jones locker. :haha:


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