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Old 05-11-10, 01:19 PM   #136
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I'll tell you how I see it.

You were out of order in the Bush thread and refused to heed many attempts by numerous people including one of your countrymen to see common sense and act accordingly.

You now decide to push the boundaries further as a result of what you perceived to be your peer group acting unreasonably toward you and in so doing create a thread about people of the Jewish faith....your ashtray joke (archived for posterity) is the most disgusting and revolting thing I have ever had the misfortune to see on this forum.

Much to your credit (sadly) you have managed to get many valued members of this community unwittingly involved and I am confident when some of them see how this thread has degenerated into what it has, they may well be having thoughts on the matter.

All of this is based on your twisted perception of something born out of frustration garnered from another thread and sold to the community as acceptable under the guise of 'open policy'.

I do not profess to know Neals mind but it is well seeing he is away for a few days.

It will be interesting to see if he has a viewpoint on his return.

Just my humble opinion of course, but everything is suitably archived...even the deletions.
I feel so dirty now. I'm going to take a shower. (I know you're not talking about me, just the participation part)
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Old 05-11-10, 01:25 PM   #137
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Old 05-11-10, 01:25 PM   #138
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nikimcbee,

Hope this helps.

"I iz Jewizh"

 
Old 05-11-10, 01:30 PM   #139
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You now decide to push the boundaries further as a result of what you perceived to be your peer group acting unreasonably toward you and in so doing create a thread about people of the Jewish faith....your ashtray joke (archived for posterity) is the most disgusting and revolting thing I have ever had the misfortune to see on this forum.
Uh-oh. That means some of my jokes are out of line as well. I apologize for any offence, Jim. I even spelled offense with a "c" to be extra nice
Seriously, though, I am very sorry if I have offended you, and I shall remove the material post-haste.
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Old 05-11-10, 01:44 PM   #140
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@Jason and James

I am not attempting to aportion blame to those who became 'unwittingly' involved.

I believe it is obvious who the primary instigator is.

@Chris

Appreciated mate.

un·wit·ting

–adjective
1. inadvertent; unintentional; accidental: His insult, though unwitting, pained her.

2. not knowing; unaware; ignorant; oblivious; unconscious: an unwitting person.
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Old 05-11-10, 02:01 PM   #141
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Yeah once again I'm sorry for the stupid jokes I posted, should have used my noggin before proceeding with them . Definately my fault that the thread got derailed and turned into a slagging match as well, once again sorry for the sh**storm I stirred up here. Feel rather bad now.
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Yeah once again I'm sorry for the stupid jokes I posted, should have used my noggin before proceeding with them . Definately my fault that the thread got derailed and turned into a slagging match as well, once again sorry for the sh**storm I stirred up here. Feel rather bad now.

Don't sweat it man, the storm had been brewing for a long time before you inadvertendly walked into the crossfire. We have all posted stuff we regret afterwards. Let's turn the page.


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A Jewish boy comes home from school and tells his mother he's been given a part in the school play.
"Wonderful. What part is it?"
The boy says,"I play the part of the Jewish husband."
The mother scowls and says, "Go back and tell the teacher you want a speaking part."
this one I like.
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They are just jokes as far as I am concerned, if anyone was offended, tough ****.
People need to grow thicker skin and learn to take some flak.
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Old 05-11-10, 03:04 PM   #144
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They are just jokes as far as I am concerned, if anyone was offended, tough ****.
People need to grow thicker skin and learn to take some flak.
OK, so let's start:
You think this attitude makes you look quite tough. But unless your audience is retarded, being offensive just for the sake of being offensive will only make you look like an insecure attention whore. Maybe you need to grow up some more to understand.
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OK, so let's start:
You think this attitude makes you look quite tough. But unless your audience is retarded, being offensive just for the sake of being offensive will only make you look like an insecure attention whore. Maybe you need to grow up some more to understand.
heartc...you can not insult another while explaining why you are insulted/offended to begin with. The use of 'retarded' is not in best of forms in chastising someone for being offense when all the same you are offending the audience that just might be retarted but that is besides the point. Where was I..... Oh yes, lets use shall we say...mentally challenged.
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OK, so let's start:
You think this attitude makes you look quite tough. But unless your audience is retarded, being offensive just for the sake of being offensive will only make you look like an insecure attention whore. Maybe you need to grow up some more to understand.
Jesus christ. This is not about being tough and I am not being offensive for its own sake, i genuinely laugh at those jokes. What people need to do is not take those things so seriously, realize that humour is one way to cope with tragedy or a way to disarm the bigot by highlighting how ridiculous their position is through laughter. Hell, my own grandmother was deported to siberia, we still laughingly refer to it as a free wilderness vacation. I have lost family in different repressions by different regimes, I crack jokes about those, if you got jokes about what ever group i fall in to, icrack those, I am a non discriminating jokester.
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I don't mind jokes about Finns either. We are so ignored in the world stage anyway.

But, if anyone was offended by the more offending jokes in the start of this thread, I apologize too. I posted them to see if I could somehow define the border between good and bad humour, it is a pretty vague border sometimes especially in ethnic humour. Two wrongs don't make a right but one wrong is bad too.

antikristuseke,

and yes to an extent I am in favour of 'complete' freedom of speech and humour as a safety valve to use to laugh at the demons of racism etc. If the worlds medias would offer equal criticism and praise to everyone regardless of race and creed etc. then yes, I would be in favour of it. Until that happens attention has to be kept on things such as rights of minorities.
 
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I'm 1/4 Scotch-Irish, 1/4 Ukrainian Pole, and 1/2 British, which makes me a Redneck-Polak-Limey, so about 75% of this thread is about me and I found 100% of it funny.

If we can't laugh at our selves who can we laugh at...
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I don't mind jokes about Finns either. We are so ignored in the world stage anyway.

But, if anyone was offended by the more offending jokes in the start of this thread, I apologize too. I posted them to see if I could somehow define the border between good and bad humour, it is a pretty vague border sometimes especially in ethnic humour. Two wrongs don't make a right but one wrong is bad too.

antikristuseke,

and yes to an extent I am in favour of 'complete' freedom of speech and humour as a safety valve to use to laugh at the demons of racism etc. If the worlds medias would offer equal criticism and praise to everyone regardless of race and creed etc. then yes, I would be in favour of it. Until that happens attention has to be kept on things such as rights of minorities.
finally something we agree on

One thing I'd like to add, is that the definition of good or bad humor often depends on the people you're talking with. For example, with most of my friends being white and central-right, I can easily make jokes about moroccans, turks etc. (just to name the most prominent minorities in the Netherlands) and most of them would find it good humor. If I had lots of morrocan/turkish friends most of them would probably consider it bad humor.

I guess with so many different nationalities/races/whatever here on subsim, one has to be extra careful not to offend somebody.
(that said, it's very hard to offend absolutely nobody in this world if you make jokes about these things, but I'd say, keep it to a respectable level - e.g. when talking about jews don't make jokes about the holocaust)
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you are right, I am out of here, carry on as you see fit.

I dont mind jokes about jewish culture, but I lost relatives in the holocaust and cannot see any humour in that.

If you guys ever want to have a serious no holds barred discussion about Israel and Middle East politics, I am game, but be warned I take no prisoners.
As a strong friend of Israel im sorry if my postings have offended you, not intended.
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