Ubisoft Shares Drop!

[janh]

Originally Posted by Moeceefus

ubisoft will remain successful just from console sales even if thier pc markets fall off. if they give up on the pc market it will be the loss of more pc titles for us pc gamers, and thats a sad thing.

Are you really convinced it will be a loss?? I presently can't see any loss that I wouldn't expect another competitor to pick up in a while after Ubi withdrew... Or do you think submarine games would have disappeared because Microprose gave up sometime after Silent Service II, or Sierra after Aces of the Deep? No, in fact with each new publisher new milestones arrived. Just patience...

[Moeceefus]

Originally Posted by janh

Are you really convinced it will be a loss?? I presently can't see any loss that I wouldn't expect another competitor to pick up in a while after Ubi withdrew... Or do you think submarine games would have disappeared because Microprose gave up sometime after Silent Service II, or Sierra after Aces of the Deep? No, in fact with each new publisher new milestones arrived. Just patience...

anytime a company goes exclusively consoles is a sad day for pc gamers imo

[TwistedFemur]

Originally Posted by Brag

Interesting: Here is biz week


UBISOFT ENTERTAINMENT (UBI:FP): Earnings Estimates - BusinessWeek

NVM it was already explained

[NefariousKoel]

Originally Posted by mcarlsonus

NOTE TO TROLLS: Note this thread. Note it well! Here we have disagreement among individuals that didn't result in name-calling and hostility. Getting to be an unusual event around here...unfortunately !

Irony? Is that you?

[msxyz]

Net earnings halved isn't a good sign. Share price drop will likely follow soon before or after the official records are announced.

29/4 if I remember correctly. Ubisoft will probably have an hard time explaining why other operators in the videogaming industry actualkly inreased their margins in 2009, despite the worldwide crisis, and they didn't. Personally, I think DRM is only the proverbial drop that made water spill out of the vase. Ubisoft software quality went down the drain in past years.

[Nordmann]

Who cares? If they go under, and that's a very, very big if, will we really miss them?

After all the rage, and angst displayed on here after the release of SH5, I cannot see too many being overly concerned as to the fate of Ubisoft. After all, this may well be the last game in the series in any case, especially when you consider the reception it received.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Brag

Is Ubisoft's strategy of DRMing up more business a success?
Shareholders must be aware of the customer resistance and are dumping Ubisoft.

2009 average share price was euros 0.87
Today's price is euros 0.47 a 50% drop. Pretty dramatic results after DRMing SH5, AC2 and Settlers.

It would appear that their DRM is turning into a Dive of Doom.

Moo!

Ref:UBISOFT ENTERTAINMENT (UBI:FP): Earnings Estimates - BusinessWeek

The drop in UBI share price all took place in the last quarter of 2008 when a lot of companies got hit. Its actually about the same now as it was in jan. 2009 and its actually gone up about 20% since SH5 was released.

Whatever weakness you see in the share price has more to do with the ongoing recession. Ubi is forecasting a loss in 2010. Don't forget that PC game sales only represent about 9% of Ubi's total revenues.

If you compare with EA's numbers, you see its an industry wide problem. EA, by way, is in worse shape than UBI, based on their numbers.

Other than UBI and EA, is there any large publisher still in mass market PC games?

I bet UBISoft is begging pirates to start stealing their stuff again! It's pretty bad when thieves don't even want to steal your crap these days!

[ddrgn]

Whats this post have anything to do with SH5?

The OP has an axe to grind and he is here everyday touting his BS.

He does not own SH5 nor does he plan on it.

His mission is to discourage other readers/players from playing a great game.

DRM is a dead issue, it prevented pirates from ripping the entire game. I call that a success, which is here to stay.

Mods please start taking care in what posts are productive towards the game and which are not. This thread should be moved to General Topics.

[Keef Kavannah]

Originally Posted by janh

Are you really convinced it will be a loss?? I presently can't see any loss that I wouldn't expect another competitor to pick up in a while after Ubi withdrew... Or do you think submarine games would have disappeared because Microprose gave up sometime after Silent Service II, or Sierra after Aces of the Deep? No, in fact with each new publisher new milestones arrived. Just patience...

when MS went blank on the CFS line, we all got in deep s**t. only il.2 was left, which i'd call a fairly well done ARCADE. so since 2005, I'VE NEVER GOT A DAMN CHANCE TO USE A JOYSTICK anymore.

we still got to meditate. drm is unfair only from the pow of a consumer who lives in a sad contry (mine) with high internet fees. from the pow of a corp., stopping pirates is the first aim, at [B]any cost[B]. if we love the serie we shall talk to 'em, then if we fail we'll take arms and march or wait until pricesìll drop under 6$ and all the "patches" and addons are out.

sh5 campaing proves to be really immersive and a step on, so..

good things to those who wait.

[Redlance88]

the concept of this thread is interesting and tho it may not be overly productive I personally see no harm in letting it continue to run it's course as a discussion of the overall business model of the attempt to protect a company investment, vs consumer rights and usability.
For my two cents, I fear that intrusive methods are here to stay, and may yet get worse, but that doesn't mean we should roll over and say nothing. I think the majority of this threads members have it right that, the negative effect of DRM on paying customers isn't going to register very highly to ubi given that its PC market share isn't as large as its counsel investment. I doubt the DRM will ever be removed from shV and I think that is unfortunate. I did buy the game, it is mostly broken in its current state, and I hope for it to improve before patch support goes away. I personally think that the "always on connection" is silly for a largely single player game, but my lap top can't run it any way so for now it has no effect on me personally, I only play it at home. I respect the folks who have chosen to hold out. and admire there conviction. I may have made a Faustian bargain in choosing to buy the game at full price, but I do want them to know that there is interest in good sub sim games. the best thing any one can do is write to the company and tell them how you feel and try to address there need to make a profit and protect there investment at the same time that you express why your needs aren't being met. I think that more than any thing will have real effect. just complaining accomplishes nothing.

[ZeInfidel]

Its the most pathetic topic,in this forum. Reminds me the jealous husband,who things that this ex wife will burn in hell ,cause she left him

[Watson]

Its the most pathetic topic,in this forum. Reminds me the jealous husband,who things that this ex wife will burn in hell ,cause she left him

[Zedi]

Originally Posted by ZeInfidel

Its the most pathetic topic,in this forum. Reminds me the jealous husband,who things that this ex wife will burn in hell ,cause she left him

This.
Same as the "my SH3 is better (bigger) than your SH5" rant

[St. Cobra]

Some great financial advise from someone who wants to see Ubi fail. Becomes bigger fail

Originally Posted by Brag

Is Ubisoft's strategy of DRMing up more business a success?
Shareholders must be aware of the customer resistance and are dumping Ubisoft.

2009 average share price was euros 0.87
Today's price is euros 0.47 a 50% drop. Pretty dramatic results after DRMing SH5, AC2 and Settlers.

It would appear that their DRM is turning into a Dive of Doom.

Moo!

Ref:UBISOFT ENTERTAINMENT (UBI:FP): Earnings Estimates - BusinessWeek