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Coldcall · 03-11-10, 11:34 AM

While i agree its not right that modders (consumers) should end up having to finnish a product for Ubisoft; there would not be the platform to be modded had no SH5 ever been developed.

So for the cost of the game, the sub simulation community has gained a highly moddable engine; (arguably) featuring the best maritime graphics ever created.

I reckon SH5 is sort of the new Falcon 4, in that it will end up a great game after a few years intense modding.

drtechno · 03-11-10, 11:36 AM

I think you are misunderstanding. It isn't that they didn't make a game YOU want (realistic sub sim), its just that the game is completely unfinished and riddled with some unplayable bugs. And saddled with a ridiculous DRM system that we have to read about every other day "Ubi servers down again". The bugs and DRM are the problem, not the lack of realism. Read the reviews.

It isn't like this game was released, highly polished with minimal problems but was just "too unrealistic" for some.

The game, in its released state, was and is garbage.

Come on, destroyer groups that maintain course with you and just plow into islands? (that plus the game killing morale bug, UI issues, ships that are in midair and unhittable, etc. etc.)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=164347&page=2

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-11-10, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldcall

So for the cost of the game, the sub simulation community has gained a highly moddable engine; (arguably) featuring the best maritime graphics ever created.

Well, I for one expect 100% playability and a finished product for the price they are asking.

Also, I doubt the engine accessability is quite as expansive as alot of people think. If it was, there'd be little use for a Silent Hunter 6.

03-11-10, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by drtechno

You mean make fun OF the game, right? Or do you really mean have fun playing the game? Because the latter statement must mean that you really have your head buried in the ground ignoring all the bugs. This forum is litterred with them.

Excuse me if it offend you that I choose to focus on the positives here. But the last 20 games I've played has been in this state on release, it's not SH5 exclusive, you know.

In other words, if you play a couple of games other than the SH series, and get so ****ing annoyed by a bug that you can't enjoy the rest of the game, then I would guess you've got no games to enjoy the last 10 years. Not to mention the vein in your forehead would be the size of an anaconda...

And I don't think there is any point in making a new thread every time someone find a bug, go to the bug thread and point it out so that the dudes from Ubisoft that sneak around on these forums need only to look one place to find them. Not to mention how unpleasant and uninviting this forum is becoming if this new trend escalates.

PS. I cracked my game the first time I realized the Ubi servers was down... it's not really hard for anyone to do just that... just back up your original files and crack it, use the original files when a new patch arrives until it gets cracked again, or until the Ubi servers are stable,it's not rocket science.. jeesh, I would think this sort of creative thinking was basic gamer knowledge. I'm not promoting piracy of any kind, but in lack of food, even the devil eats flies...

Safe-Keeper · 03-11-10, 06:06 PM

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Secondly, can't you whiners stick to one thread, let those of us who actually enjoy the game have a neat forum to visit and talk about our fun times with the game. As it is now, a wall of pointless whining posts are greeting you as you enter what used to be one of the neatest, cleanest and most pleasant gaming forum on the web.

You mean make fun OF the game, right? Or do you really mean have fun playing the game? Because the latter statement must mean that you really have your head buried in the ground ignoring all the bugs. This forum is litterred with them.

Way to totally dodge his point

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I agree, those of us who enjoy SH5 do not really appreciate people making threads only to gripe. There's a review thread for those who have the game and dislike it, there's a thread for DRM discussion, and I'm sure an "I hate SH5 and I'm never gonna buy it and I just have to tell you all" thread can be arranged.

I appreciate and welcome dissent, but spamming negative threads at a fan site is little more than plain trolling.

pythos · 03-12-10, 02:42 PM

Anyone here build scale models?

Do you complain to the manufacturer when you see a part in there that makes you go "WTF?". I know I don't. I realize what I have is the parts necessary that with time and patience will become what I want it to be.

The sh series should be viewed like that, from here on out.

Never expect a complete game, just the essentials to get a complete game.

How much was your SH5 copy? 45 bucks.

My Revell Gato submarine was 99 bucks, and all one gets is pieces and parts, some that need some serious redooing or modding for accuracy.

Modding games is far cheaper than building models, and makes for a more functional thing.

Onkel Neal · 03-12-10, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewtality

Excuse me if it offend you that I choose to focus on the positives here. But the last 20 games I've played has been in this state on release, it's not SH5 exclusive, you know.

In other words, if you play a couple of games other than the SH series, and get so ****ing annoyed by a bug that you can't enjoy the rest of the game, then I would guess you've got no games to enjoy the last 10 years. Not to mention the vein in your forehead would be the size of an anaconda...

And I don't think there is any point in making a new thread every time someone find a bug, go to the bug thread and point it out so that the dudes from Ubisoft that sneak around on these forums need only to look one place to find them. Not to mention how unpleasant and uninviting this forum is becoming if this new trend escalates.

PS. I cracked my game the first time I realized the Ubi servers was down... it's not really hard for anyone to do just that... just back up your original files and crack it, use the original files when a new patch arrives until it gets cracked again, or until the Ubi servers are stable,it's not rocket science.. jeesh, I would think this sort of creative thinking was basic gamer knowledge. I'm not promoting piracy of any kind, but in lack of food, even the devil eats flies...

As we have stated MANY times, you cannot discuss cracking games here. Undoubedly, you will bombard the Admin with hate emails asking why you were banned, just read the rules.

sav112 · 03-12-10, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pythos

Anyone here build scale models?

The sh series should be viewed like that, from here on out.
Never expect a complete game, just the essentials to get a complete game.
My Revell Gato submarine was 99 bucks, and all one gets is pieces and parts, some that need some serious redooing or modding for accuracy.

Modding games is far cheaper than building models, and makes for a more functional thing.

That must a a joke yeah, or do I buy a game try it, decide what has been left out, modelled wrong, bits of play that are lacking due to poor coding, decide the Ai is missing.

Picture a cartoon door, the door slams shut, a wee sign appears, “ Away to learn computer modding” six months later appears, the door opens and the character sits down to start fixing his game……

Oh yeah. Air fix Computer games.

03-12-10, 03:26 PM

I think we can all agree that the game was released by ubisoft unfinished.
For that, I blame ubisoft not the devs.
I am self employed in construction and I know how hard it is to work on a deadline and sometimes I go over that deadline to make sure the job is completed to as high a standard as I can do.
If a builder decides that my job is good enough for him so that he can get on with the next stage, there is not much I can do but make him sign a disclaimer.
I am sure the devs will patch it but probably only as long as the time ubisoft will give them to patch it and that will probably only depend on sales and how important the franchise is to ubisoft.
But I will thank the devs for one thing and that is for taking me back to the days were I spent hours upon hours on silent service 2 on my amiga.
I am now a married man with kids, a mortgage and a career.
I still have my hair but going slightly grey and wrinkles are just getting longer.
My main problem is, that if I booted up silent service 2 now I would probably laugh at how many hours I dedicated to it but what SH5 has done has re-invigorated my interest in u-boats to the point of buying up some u-boat fiction and non-fiction.
For that I thank the devs and the modders for making this game what it is and for what it will become and for me, this game is priceless.

pythos · 03-13-10, 02:37 PM

Sav 112,

No it was not a joke. I am trying to put a positive spin on this sim, along with the previous Sh sims.

You obviously are so biased against the game, you cannot not see what I am trying to say here.

But thank you for the snide little comment there.

03-12-10, 03:26 PM	#39
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think we can all agree that the game was released by ubisoft unfinished. For that, I blame ubisoft not the devs. I am self employed in construction and I know how hard it is to work on a deadline and sometimes I go over that deadline to make sure the job is completed to as high a standard as I can do. If a builder decides that my job is good enough for him so that he can get on with the next stage, there is not much I can do but make him sign a disclaimer. I am sure the devs will patch it but probably only as long as the time ubisoft will give them to patch it and that will probably only depend on sales and how important the franchise is to ubisoft. But I will thank the devs for one thing and that is for taking me back to the days were I spent hours upon hours on silent service 2 on my amiga. I am now a married man with kids, a mortgage and a career. I still have my hair but going slightly grey and wrinkles are just getting longer. My main problem is, that if I booted up silent service 2 now I would probably laugh at how many hours I dedicated to it but what SH5 has done has re-invigorated my interest in u-boats to the point of buying up some u-boat fiction and non-fiction. For that I thank the devs and the modders for making this game what it is and for what it will become and for me, this game is priceless. Last edited by Barso; 03-12-10 at 03:39 PM.

03-13-10, 02:37 PM	#40
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Sav 112, No it was not a joke. I am trying to put a positive spin on this sim, along with the previous Sh sims. You obviously are so biased against the game, you cannot not see what I am trying to say here. But thank you for the snide little comment there. Last edited by pythos; 03-13-10 at 02:47 PM.

03-11-10, 11:34 AM	#31
Coldcall Chief Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 325 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	While i agree its not right that modders (consumers) should end up having to finnish a product for Ubisoft; there would not be the platform to be modded had no SH5 ever been developed. So for the cost of the game, the sub simulation community has gained a highly moddable engine; (arguably) featuring the best maritime graphics ever created. I reckon SH5 is sort of the new Falcon 4, in that it will end up a great game after a few years intense modding.

03-11-10, 11:36 AM	#32
drtechno Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 48 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think you are misunderstanding. It isn't that they didn't make a game YOU want (realistic sub sim), its just that the game is completely unfinished and riddled with some unplayable bugs. And saddled with a ridiculous DRM system that we have to read about every other day "Ubi servers down again". The bugs and DRM are the problem, not the lack of realism. Read the reviews. It isn't like this game was released, highly polished with minimal problems but was just "too unrealistic" for some. The game, in its released state, was and is garbage. Come on, destroyer groups that maintain course with you and just plow into islands? (that plus the game killing morale bug, UI issues, ships that are in midair and unhittable, etc. etc.) http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=164347&page=2

03-12-10, 02:42 PM	#36
pythos Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere over there Posts: 834 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Anyone here build scale models? Do you complain to the manufacturer when you see a part in there that makes you go "WTF?". I know I don't. I realize what I have is the parts necessary that with time and patience will become what I want it to be. The sh series should be viewed like that, from here on out. Never expect a complete game, just the essentials to get a complete game. How much was your SH5 copy? 45 bucks. My Revell Gato submarine was 99 bucks, and all one gets is pieces and parts, some that need some serious redooing or modding for accuracy. Modding games is far cheaper than building models, and makes for a more functional thing.