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bond672 03-10-10 11:34 PM

Never was so much hoped by so many, and delivered to so few!
 
Dear all,
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life! when i played SH4 i was a kid in a candy store, the gameplay was magical, i felt immersed in the sim. it was great just to stand on the bridge and watch the waves go by.

when i turn to SH5 what do we get? one boat! and the major difference i can tell from SH5 to 4 is the great ripple view from the water on the camera lense!

when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1. the ability to walk through a cabin and ask someone how his wife and kids are is not a huge step up in quality. I am shocked, saddened and dissapointed with this sim. im sure i am not alone in this frustration but if there are people who are deciding to buy this sim, my honest answer would be get SH4 plus uboat missions, install op Monsun and its better than you will ever get with SH5.

the whole internet connection thing is a whole nother matter which i wont go into because its a waste of breath and finger typing.

thanks for reading
regards
Bond

jazman 03-10-10 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1.

This is a ludicrous lack of perspective.

jwilliams 03-10-10 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1.
if there are people who are deciding to buy this sim, my honest answer would be get SH4 plus uboat missions, install op Monsun and its better than you will ever get with SH5.

the whole internet connection thing is a whole nother matter which i wont go into because its a waste of breath and finger typing.

thanks for reading
regards
Bond

I never got SH4 because of the unfinished state and bugs. The only reason I've decided to get SH5 is because of the mods. If there were not going to be mods for it, I wouldnt even think about buying it.
I Just hope they release patches and fix the OSP (DRM) side of it, very soon.

Ducimus 03-10-10 11:51 PM

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This is a ludicrous lack of perspective.
I take it as a compliment! :O: (yeah i know.. shameless!)

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I never got SH4 because of the unfinished state and bugs.
Ever hear of a little programming term called inheritance? :haha:

jwilliams 03-11-10 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1307701)
Ever hear of a little programming term called inheritance? :haha:

Yes, and that what Ubisoft Romania have done. Cut and Paste. but didnt bother to fix the problems in the old OOP code.

And seeing what was done by the modders for SH3 & SH4, Is the only reason I would consider buying SH5. If it was not for the modding & modder's ability then SH5 would be a NO GO!

mookiemookie 03-11-10 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life!

Not to be too snarky, but when a video game is the biggest disappointment of your life, it's time to re-evaluate your life.

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when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1.
You're comparing the thousands of hours of work people have done with no deadline on a game that has been out for 3 years to one that has been out for 6 days. Are you serious?

gimpy117 03-11-10 12:38 AM

it is a bit of a let down. right now though its simple things that are holding back. things that we know can be fixed..why? because it's in the code! they could all be fixed easily or enabled quickly!!!

this game reminds me of rise of flight. 1.0 of Rise Of Flight was not very good...but you could see glimmers of what the game could be...and now on 1.11 its actually pretty good. lets SH5 dosent have to wait 5 months to be fixed to that point.

pythos 03-11-10 12:52 AM

You know, I have been playing Sh5 with only engine sound patches, and the first UBi patch and this is what I say to all you nay sayers.

STFU.

Aside from the all too easy Auto TDC, Lack of direction indication, and DRM from a stupid place (hell is too good for this dumb idea). I have found the sim to be VERY promising, and an obstanent deck gun crew that just get to happy doing their job.

There are some tweaks that the boat could use, and definitely a return of the best range at said speed, along with depth under keel.

But over all They got a lot of things right. The HULL CREAKS again. As you go deeper it changes to more ominous sounds. The interior is very well done, and once modders or UBI make the crew even more interactive than these baby steps presented here, this is gonna be a good sim.

Sh4 was unfinished and optimized bad. This sim is running quite well on my single core processor, even with the features on except for shadows.

The spray and explosion effects are too slow, but that is because of my single core, which will be replaced soon.

I have not had one ctd, unlike with sh4 the first few minutes I got one.

ONce DRM has gone away, and the modders can have their way with this stock model, we will have a very sweet sim that will exceed Sh3, and that is a bold statement.

Brewtality 03-11-10 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
Dear all,
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life! when i played SH4 i was a kid in a candy store, the gameplay was magical, i felt immersed in the sim. it was great just to stand on the bridge and watch the waves go by.

Firstly, if SH5 is the cause of your biggest disappointment in life, then you have gone through life with a breeze so far.

Secondly, can't you whiners stick to one thread, let those of us who actually enjoy the game have a neat forum to visit and talk about our fun times with the game. As it is now, a wall of pointless whining posts are greeting you as you enter what used to be one of the neatest, cleanest and most pleasant gaming forum on the web.

(the below is pointed at no one special)
If you've been a member of subsim for 3 hours, just bought the game and feel utterly disappointed with it, by no means feel obligated to come here and spill your guts about it for my sake, I don't really give a crap what you think about it unless it's being discussed in one single thread.

PS. A thread I would not participate in, btw.

GoldenRivet 03-11-10 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life!

You have obviously never had a pickle surprise.

Yak 03-11-10 06:04 AM

I consider 'The Crying Game' to be one of the few occasions in life where a grown man is allowed to cry in bereavement, self-disgust and epic dissappointment.

Buying a game, even a turd of a game isn't one of them...

oscar19681 03-11-10 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
Dear all,
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life! when i played SH4 i was a kid in a candy store, the gameplay was magical, i felt immersed in the sim. it was great just to stand on the bridge and watch the waves go by.

when i turn to SH5 what do we get? one boat! and the major difference i can tell from SH5 to 4 is the great ripple view from the water on the camera lense!

when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1. the ability to walk through a cabin and ask someone how his wife and kids are is not a huge step up in quality. I am shocked, saddened and dissapointed with this sim. im sure i am not alone in this frustration but if there are people who are deciding to buy this sim, my honest answer would be get SH4 plus uboat missions, install op Monsun and its better than you will ever get with SH5.

the whole internet connection thing is a whole nother matter which i wont go into because its a waste of breath and finger typing.

thanks for reading
regards
Bond

Why were you so immersed by sh-4? I mean it was not a bad game but in immersive perspective it was a step backwards compared to sh-3. Looking at sh-5 it brings back the immersivness a lot more then sh-4 ever did. But hey thats my opinion.

java`s revenge 03-11-10 06:54 AM

Why is almost everybody talking about shiv???

My taste is still sh3 + GWX + all other mods is much much much
better than shiv.

When i look at the shv mods there are some mods deported from shiv.
Okay i am glad with it. But i do miss for example the great olc gui etc.
Where are all sh3 mod makers for sh5 ?

Coldcall 03-11-10 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
Dear all,
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life! when i played SH4 i was a kid in a candy store, the gameplay was magical, i felt immersed in the sim. it was great just to stand on the bridge and watch the waves go by.

when i turn to SH5 what do we get? one boat! and the major difference i can tell from SH5 to 4 is the great ripple view from the water on the camera lense!

when you look at the MODS people have done for SH4 it surpases SH5 10000 to 1. the ability to walk through a cabin and ask someone how his wife and kids are is not a huge step up in quality. I am shocked, saddened and dissapointed with this sim. im sure i am not alone in this frustration but if there are people who are deciding to buy this sim, my honest answer would be get SH4 plus uboat missions, install op Monsun and its better than you will ever get with SH5.

the whole internet connection thing is a whole nother matter which i wont go into because its a waste of breath and finger typing.

thanks for reading
regards
Bond

I think you are going over-board (pardon the pun).

Yes its got loads of bugs, and the DRM is a disaster. I was bitterly annoyed when i first started playing but i am starting to like it from a potentially modded persepctive.

However i do agree that the campaign is way too stifling and needs to be opened up so players can choose starting dates/locations/sub type. But from what Ive read from the modders apparently there is lots of scope for rewriting the campaign.

Mud 03-11-10 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bond672 (Post 1307684)
Dear all,
After playing SH5 i can safely say i have never been so dissapointed in all my life!

:rotfl2::rotfl2:

bloody hell, wanna hear my story ? :har:


Mud


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