The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[MasterCaine]

Originally Posted by Brag

Ubi lost money last year. They still expect negative chash flow this year. It's going to be worse as SH5 fails like crazy due to DRM. Then this will cause a domino effect on othe Ubi games. DRM is a big self-impossed disaster for UBI.

Ubisoft's latest move to DRM (and possible pay-as-you-play) is just another sign of their financial desperation. Final death throes. Call it intuition, but I have feeling Ubisoft won't be around much longer.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I am not so certain that Ubi expects SH5 to be a cash cow in the same vein as, say, Assasins Creed and Prince of Persia.

Agreed on that, that's why they are testing the DRM/OBS on us. However DRM will sink Assassins Creed, too, if they try it.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Letum

online DRM isn't speculation, it's been confirmed long ago.

I meant speculate about Ubi servers going down, Ubi will steal private data, speculate that it will be cracked anyway, etc.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by MasterCaine

Ubisoft's latest move to DRM (and possible pay-as-you-play) is just another sign of their financial desperation. Final death throes. Call it intuition, but I have feeling Ubisoft won't be around much longer.

From reading their latest financial statemen, I think you might be right.

[Wulfmann]

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Méo

I meant speculate about Ubi servers going down, Ubi will steal private data, speculate that it will be cracked anyway, etc.

I haven't personally speculated about any of those, although Ubisoft
has done all three in the past.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Letum

I haven't personally speculated about any of those, although Ubisoft
has done all three in the past.

I wasn't necessarily talking only about you, it was a general comment.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Letum

In the end, there is always someone who will make money by giving
paying customers what they want, however much piracy or games
people refuse to buy, a paying customer's wallet is still worth chasing.

Sure, invest $1,500,000 in a game and give paying cutomers what they want, and paying customer's wallets totals, oh, let's say $50,000. Yeah, that's a great business model.

If there are not enough paying customers, it won't get made. No matter how much paying customers want it.

[Letum]

It'll get made to what ever extent it will be paid for.
One customer paying one pound gets you £1 worth of game.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Letum

It'll get made to what ever extent it will be paid for.
One customer paying one pound gets you £1 worth of game.

I rolled a 4. Does that mean my torpedo hits the tanker or not?

I really hope subsims as a genre are not reduced to this. I'd hate to see them go to the console. I just don't think they'd survive in that format, at least not in any form I'd like to play.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Letum

It'll get made to what ever extent it will be paid for.
One customer paying one pound gets you £1 worth of game.

What? Again, what?

[Nickolas]

Originally Posted by razark

I rolled a 4. Does that mean my torpedo hits the tanker or not?

it would if you were playing Silent war.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/17484/silent-war

and it's a board game so don't worry, internet connection is not required

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

Agree 100%, whoever merged it obviously from the "lovers of the DRM/OSP crowd"!! Now the poll results are gone and I can't respond to the previous thread, lost in the middle somewhere!! What a pain!!

[Letum]

The merging has been a little over zealous.
Two threads surely isn't too many.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

Oh come on, just click and read, that will take you a week? That's pretty scary.