The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Brag

Ubi lost money last year. They still expect negative chash flow this year. It's going to be worse as SH5 fails like crazy due to DRM. Then this will cause a domino effect on othe Ubi games. DRM is a big self-impossed disaster for UBI.

I am not so certain that Ubi expects SH5 to be a cash cow in the same vein as, say, Assasins Creed and Prince of Persia.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I am not so certain that Ubi expects SH5 to be a cash cow in the same vein as, say, Assasins Creed and Prince of Persia.

Agreed on that, that's why they are testing the DRM/OBS on us. However DRM will sink Assassins Creed, too, if they try it.

[Wulfmann]

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

Agree 100%, whoever merged it obviously from the "lovers of the DRM/OSP crowd"!! Now the poll results are gone and I can't respond to the previous thread, lost in the middle somewhere!! What a pain!!

[Letum]

The merging has been a little over zealous.
Two threads surely isn't too many.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

Thanks for merging the threads.
Now I can't find anything at all.
I was on a 7 page thread, hard enough, but now it is 83 pages so on dial up I am supposed to take a week to search for the relative postings???

I guess that was done for your convenience and obviously with no concern for the general membership.

I guess Joe Biden is the moderator now

Wulfmann

Oh come on, just click and read, that will take you a week? That's pretty scary.

[Frederf]

Merged threads can be a pain to follow. You may or may not be aware that if you set the posts-per-page to the maximum this thread is but a mere 32 pages. Then again you are on dial-up

[Onkel Neal]

I wouldn't take the effort to merge except they are talking about the same thing in several threads. Same discussion.

[Wulfmann]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Oh come on, just click and read, that will take you a week? That's pretty scary.

I went to public schools in the 60's so that would translate to months for someone in public schools today.

You can beatch about me beatching as long as I can beatch.which is what I like about you Neal. I feel like I can be honest and you don't take it personal and vise verse.

Now for those that say anyone who complains about DRM is a Pirate you can KMA
Ships-R-us there may be a pirate problem but if I had a blood clot in my brain the fact a bullet to the head would cure it does not mean shooting myself in the head is the thing to do.

Your entire threads validates my point on having an offline dedicated game PC that has little to nothing running and no way to be attacked from outside and then you insist I am a pirate because I don't want to let UBI have control over my PC and at the same time proof I should have a PC that does not have the same crap you want me to have on it.

You may not be an idiot but you sound like one with your contradicting accusatory remarks.

You can't have it both ways SRus.

This is simple really.
UBI has the right to make a game that requires whatever it wants to make it run.
I have the right not to buy it and the right to say why.
That does not make me a pirate and anyone using that excuse is an idiot and proves they have no valid argument
I have met some serious hackers who now work for companies preventing hacking and everyone of them tells me no matter how good a pirated copy the only way to have a good clean game is to buy it. It is one thing to give it a try but not worth the trouble if you like it and want to play it. Being on dial up, yeah, I am looking to DL 10GB of a game. I am beginning to think idiot is too much of a compliment

Wulfmann

[Brag]

Gentlemen!

Tempers are rising as DTD Day approaches. We are beginning to see too many personal squables and the hurling of insults. This is happening even among people with equal viewpoints.

The proDRMies, as few as they are, are entitled to their opinions.
The Anti DRM Freedom Fighters should remain calm and softly and privately chuckle at the ProDRMies heroic efforts of swimming against the flood of legitimate outrage.

DTD Day = Death to DRM Day.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Brag

Gentlemen!

Tempers are rising as DTD Day approaches. We are beginning to see too many personal squables and the hurling of insults. This is happening even among people with equal viewpoints.

The proDRMies, as few as they are, are entitled to their opinions.
The Anti DRM Freedom Fighters should remain calm and softly and privately chuckle at the ProDRMies heroic efforts of swimming against the flood of legitimate outrage.

DTD Day = Death to DRM Day.

LMAO....the truth is out there, does anyone know the url?

[scrapser]

As a side note, I remember chatting with Jez San, the author of the Amiga game "StarGlider" by Rainbird Software back in 1987 on Compuserve. He told me at the time the average shelf life of a game before it was hacked was 45 days. I wonder what it is now? I bet it's probably much shorter.

[Nisgeis]

Hacking is very different to cracking. Hacking = cretaing POKEs for infinite lives and ammo. The protection systems were designed to stop the competition from looking at the game code, not to stop copying. Back in those days, all you had to do to copy a game was to put it in a tape to tape dubber and anyone could do that. The copy protection relied on having info requested from pages on a manual (a printed one!) or other objects supplied with the game. When disks arrived though, they started to get a bit more devious and started putting electronic copy protection in.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by scrapser

As a side note, I remember chatting with Jez San, the author of the Amiga game "StarGlider" by Rainbird Software back in 1987 on Compuserve. He told me at the time the average shelf life of a game before it was hacked was 45 days. I wonder what it is now? I bet it's probably much shorter.

Many are already cracked before the street release date.