Ubisoft comments on new DRM (will lower/prevent piracy?)

Onkel Neal · 02-08-10, 12:03 AM

You reading the same thing I'm reading? Where do they say "it will not prevent piracy?"

There's the typical marketing double-speak but nowhere do they admit anything. Because they say it will "lower" piracy? Maybe they mean lower it to zero.

onelifecrisis · 02-08-10, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Maybe they mean lower it to zero.

IanC · 02-08-10, 12:21 AM

Yup, Ubi basicaly said nothing in that article. But they said it smoothly and with style.

Well at least we now know that they “... know a permanent internet connection is controversial”. I guess that's something.

onelifecrisis · 02-08-10, 12:25 AM

Are you two serious!? It's an admission if I ever saw one. Those PR guys choose their words carefully. They don't say "anything that can help lower piracy" when what they mean is "something that can prevent piracy". They're admitting that it'll be cracked.

Onkel Neal · 02-08-10, 12:28 AM

Whatever. That's a helluva stretch to admitting it won't prevent piracy

onelifecrisis · 02-08-10, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Whatever. That's a helluva stretch to admitting it won't prevent piracy

Something tells me you have little interest in politics.

Onkel Neal · 02-08-10, 12:34 AM

True, and even less interest in the accuracy and precision of anything that comes out of the mouth of a marketing and PR person

Half the time they don't know what they're talking about, as long as it sounds good.

IanC · 02-08-10, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

Are you two serious!? It's an admission if I ever saw one. Those PR guys choose their words carefully. They don't say "anything that can help lower piracy" when what they mean is "something that can prevent piracy". They're admitting that it'll be cracked.

I know what you mean, there is a very slight tinge of admission in the way he says it. But at the same time he's not really saying anything is he. Where does that leave us now?

tater · 02-08-10, 12:44 AM

Yeah, but "lowering the impact" smacks of something like being "a little pregnant" to me.

Once a functional (offline) crack is out and on the torrents, poof. Game over, it is pirated.

If they want to sell it as a service, show us the constant updates, etc, that would make people embrace it. THAT is how you SELL this. Proof or a pledge that the game will get meaningful updates every X weeks, etc.

AkbarGulag · 02-08-10, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

Once a functional (offline) crack is out and on the torrents, poof. Game over, it is pirated.

There's no way this DRM will work. Plenty of games going the same way recently, all pirated almost overnight.

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Originally Posted by tater

If they want to sell it as a service, show us the constant updates, etc, that would make people embrace it. THAT is how you SELL this. Proof or a pledge that the game will get meaningful updates every X weeks, etc.

If it was a 'Steam' game, well, then you could use it offline. Just need to be online to activate it. Never thought I would say this, but the steam system has lots of advantages, despite being critical at its conception. And I dare say more secure than DRM.

This no play while offline..... we don't all have crisp connections, it would be a never ending nightmare. Murphy's law dictates, that when your net does go down, it will be at exactly the moment you find time to have a lash at SH.

onelifecrisis · 02-08-10, 12:48 AM

lol @ Neal
Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by IanC

I know what you mean, there is a very slight tinge of admission in the way he says it. But at the same time he's not really saying anything is he. Where does that leave us now?

I couldn't say where it leaves you. It leaves me knowing for a fact that their new DRM won't stop piracy - something I was trying to keep an open mind on, but now they've admitted it won't work, so I needn't wonder.

Adriatico · 02-08-10, 05:35 AM

It seems they are just preparing their "life boats"... if one day it gets cracked.

...and public question appears "For what reason you have tortured and devastated your fan base ?"

Brag · 02-08-10, 07:02 AM

The only new item is Ubi's admission that they are aware of discontent.
What they are not admitting that the rebellion against DRM is massive. They'll get the point once our wallets remain shut after launch date.

codmander · 02-08-10, 12:05 PM

pirates being pirates will crack sh5 period I'm not a pirate but the way things are going with sh5 there just gonna turn more people into pirates

gutted · 02-10-10, 12:00 AM

Any software worth cracking can and WILL be cracked.

DRM is only an annoyance to the honest buyer. To those who pirate it, DRM means nothing at all, except maybe even more incentive to pirate it in the first place.

I've already quit buying steam only games, and i guess i'll quit buying ubi games as well.

Sorry, but im not putting up my hard earned dough for a product that i can't guarantee that i'll be able to play whenever i want. I lost my job last year, and had to give up the internet for awhile. All those steam games i had were rendered unusable.

This whole concept of merely "Licensing" a product is ridiculous. I pay $50 dollars for it, it's mine... get out of my way and let me enjoy it.

02-08-10, 12:03 AM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	You reading the same thing I'm reading? Where do they say "it will not prevent piracy?" There's the typical marketing double-speak but nowhere do they admit anything. Because they say it will "lower" piracy? Maybe they mean lower it to zero. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-08-10, 12:25 AM	#4
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	Are you two serious!? It's an admission if I ever saw one. Those PR guys choose their words carefully. They don't say "anything that can help lower piracy" when what they mean is "something that can prevent piracy". They're admitting that it'll be cracked. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

02-08-10, 12:28 AM	#5
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Whatever. That's a helluva stretch to admitting it won't prevent piracy __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-08-10, 12:34 AM	#7
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	True, and even less interest in the accuracy and precision of anything that comes out of the mouth of a marketing and PR person Half the time they don't know what they're talking about, as long as it sounds good. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-08-10, 05:35 AM	#12
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	It seems they are just preparing their "life boats"... if one day it gets cracked. ...and public question appears "For what reason you have tortured and devastated your fan base ?" __________________ Last edited by Adriatico; 02-08-10 at 10:38 AM.

02-08-10, 12:21 AM	#3
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yup, Ubi basicaly said nothing in that article. But they said it smoothly and with style. Well at least we now know that they “... know a permanent internet connection is controversial”. I guess that's something.

02-08-10, 12:44 AM	#9
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, but "lowering the impact" smacks of something like being "a little pregnant" to me. Once a functional (offline) crack is out and on the torrents, poof. Game over, it is pirated. If they want to sell it as a service, show us the constant updates, etc, that would make people embrace it. THAT is how you SELL this. Proof or a pledge that the game will get meaningful updates every X weeks, etc.

02-08-10, 07:02 AM	#13
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The only new item is Ubi's admission that they are aware of discontent. What they are not admitting that the rebellion against DRM is massive. They'll get the point once our wallets remain shut after launch date. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

02-08-10, 12:05 PM	#14
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	pirates being pirates will crack sh5 period I'm not a pirate but the way things are going with sh5 there just gonna turn more people into pirates

02-10-10, 12:00 AM	#15
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,379 Downloads: 487 Uploads: 11	Any software worth cracking can and WILL be cracked. DRM is only an annoyance to the honest buyer. To those who pirate it, DRM means nothing at all, except maybe even more incentive to pirate it in the first place. I've already quit buying steam only games, and i guess i'll quit buying ubi games as well. Sorry, but im not putting up my hard earned dough for a product that i can't guarantee that i'll be able to play whenever i want. I lost my job last year, and had to give up the internet for awhile. All those steam games i had were rendered unusable. This whole concept of merely "Licensing" a product is ridiculous. I pay $50 dollars for it, it's mine... get out of my way and let me enjoy it.