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Old 02-06-10, 12:18 PM   #31
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Well I’ll actually use the views and offical reviews I read to form an informed judgment. Bit stupid not too really use such a great source of information. Why spend money on a half built game possibly when the sheep can do it for me.

When I bought my new cars I used reviews and personal opinions, same when I bought my new digital camera there. Views of others on here is great to point out things I miss.

Anyone fool can waste money on a game, any fool can post on a thread but you can sort out the wheat from the chaff most of the time
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Old 02-06-10, 12:57 PM   #32
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Well I’ll actually use the views and offical reviews I read to form an informed judgment. Bit stupid not too really use such a great source of information. Why spend money on a half built game possibly when the sheep can do it for me.

When I bought my new cars I used reviews and personal opinions, same when I bought my new digital camera there. Views of others on here is great to point out things I miss.

Anyone fool can waste money on a game, any fool can post on a thread but you can sort out the wheat from the chaff most of the time
So... before you can buy any game, you wait for the 'foolish sheep' to rush out and buy it, but then you put your contempt to one side,
And suddenly respect their feedback and opinions enough to decide weather its worth buying for yourself?
if the sheep say its good - you buy it, if they say it blows - you dont? Doesn't that just make you a sheep following sheep?

Another way to look at it is this;
At least the 'sheep' formed his own opinion by actually playing the game, rather than just following the opinions of others....

At the end of the day someone has to bite the bullet and be the first to buy a game.
Why do you need to put them down, when you say they are actually doing you a favour?

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Old 02-06-10, 12:58 PM   #33
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Well isnt that what happens to every thread? There's noone here keeping control of this place, telling them to vent in a specific thread. So it was going to happen.

I took the reverse approach. By mentioning that, hoping that people would try to avoid bringing it up. And seeing as how long this thread has existed without people complaining about it, it may have actually worked.

trenken we are as a group trying to "move on" beyond the DRM talk and talk about the game now and this is something you have said you want to happen too so if there isnt any DRM talk please dont be the first to bring it up or we can never move past it.

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Old 02-06-10, 02:14 PM   #34
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I’m not putting anyone down for buying a game, I just like to be well informed before I spend time on a game. If the game gets reviewed poorly, information comes to light that things are missing or done badly for example your campaign stopping 1943 or that you need an online Connection to play in this games case.

I really hate the fact that some of the game company’s take advantage of the fact people will buy it no question. The half beta games you get now are a joke, some patched and fixed six months after release.

I also hate these Fan boys that defend games to the hilt, especially when the game company is making an epic go at failing the very community that has kept them afloat.

If there is a Demo all the better so you can try the game out. I can even add the thoughts of the community on it to add to build a picture as to if I’d like it or its worth buys. One things for sure I’ll certainly not be pre-ordering as its not my style.


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Old 02-06-10, 02:24 PM   #35
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All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!
I totally agree with that point. I've been saying that for some days now, apparently, those of us wanting to buy it to be able to make an informed decision for ourselves, are a bunch of fools. Whatever, I think that makes us more of a bunch of smart guys, than fools. At least we'll know what we're talking about.
Though I don't agree with you in the point that the GUI looks cool. That's one of the few facts we can see in the screencaps we've been presented so far, and, while I understand it's the choice the Devs must have had to take in order to have an usable minimalistic interface, I quite don't find it the most appropiate choice. Will be modded for sure after release though, so doesn't really bother me.


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I will play the game for myself and form my own opinion. I will listen to what others think about SHV as it can be intresting/funny/whatever -but I will not let it influence what ever I decide to do.
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What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march
A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics. Nowhere near close to functional details and the realism environment (the IA sees your closer or further, what happens when an enemy bullet hits you, what happens to ships when they're hit by a torpedo, what happens when you take manual control of the TVR -TDC for everyone else-, what happens if you're surfaced on daylight at 1943, etc...), just all the eyecandy, which we're quite familiar with right now.
And, it's not like the most expensive game you'll find, so, one buys it, and if it's no good, then, ok, some money spent, but at least you have the right to say if it's pure crap or not.

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Old 02-06-10, 02:34 PM   #36
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A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics.
Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?
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Old 02-06-10, 02:54 PM   #37
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Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.
LOL no one is talking about it being wrong to express opinions before the game is out, just that seems silly too decide weather to buy or skip the game based on those opinions.

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Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk,
Oh sure - how dare he show enthusiam for the game, that is a cardinal sin around here, brand him as a 'fanboy'. and beat him with negativity sticks until he learns that its 'cool to hate'

BTW you misquoted him - he said "From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible" not that 'it is'.

Anyway Im buying SH5 based on this.

Sh3 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh4 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh5....

You do the math.

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Old 02-06-10, 02:59 PM   #38
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Awesome in its awesomeness!!1!!
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Old 02-06-10, 03:05 PM   #39
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Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion.
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?
Well, I never said people should just shut up. I just think that before rushing to negative conclussions and bothering the Devs about it, we should wait to test the game, or wait till we get much more in-depth information. Of course, people can do what they please, I'm not here to tell people what should or should not do.

Preordering, it's not something I like to do in general. I prefer to go to the stores in my city (to support local distribution), or to get games through Steam once they're out. It's not like I'll get it sooner (not much though) if I preorder it.

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Old 02-06-10, 06:23 PM   #40
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I've been noticing a real undertone of "if you don't share my opinion of the game you're crazy/stupid/etc." in the forum lately and I don't like it.
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if the sheep say its good - you buy it, if they say it blows - you dont? Doesn't that just make you a sheep following sheep?

Why do you need to put them down, when you say they are actually doing you a favour?
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Oh sure - how dare he show enthusiam for the game, that is a cardinal sin around here, brand him as a 'fanboy'. and beat him with negativity sticks until he learns that its 'cool to hate'

Anyway Im buying SH5 based on this.

Sh3 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh4 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh5....

You do the math.
Excellent points! gentlemen.
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Old 02-06-10, 07:05 PM   #41
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Holy in its Holyness.
But wheres the DRM Talk?
You guys are so, like... uncool!

Its gonna be a damn expensive game if i have to get ADSL. FCUK
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Old 02-06-10, 07:42 PM   #42
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@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

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Old 02-06-10, 07:55 PM   #43
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@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

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Old 02-07-10, 06:18 AM   #44
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@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

Moo

Well said that man!


In my View SH3 was not perfect and rather poor at times. I had boats floating in the air, somersaulting and sinking then re-appearing. Boats hitting each other at alarming rates in convoys and the list would go on and fill pages.

But after I installed the many fantastic Mods that gave the game better everything I realised just how poor SH was out of the box. I can live with the historical inaccuracies, the design inaccuracies like is “that ladder wrong” but I got bored stiff of the Ai in the end or lack of it but appreciated what the modding community had done. They had turned a poor game into a playable and enjoyable game at times.

Never bought Sh4 as it just looked more of the same and from what I read in the many reviews and forums I was right in my opinion not to buy it.

SH5 looks promising in parts, dismal in others so far. There is that little real game footage released for anyone to form a really good informed opinion in my own mind. And the real test is when people do get there hands on it and batter it senseless.

Yes you can pee your pants with excitement if that’s your thing and spew drivel till release on what little is known and I’ll laughingly read this entertainment as some of the posts on here are worth a laugh.
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Old 02-08-10, 03:25 PM   #45
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I've already pre-ordered the game since waaay back.

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