I have this DRM in Rise of Flight - Page 2

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuboS

I have RoF too.
High end PC, broadband connection and still loading times of every mission are really ridiculous ...
And btw, right now authorization server for RoF is down, so no one can play ...

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=7091

- LuboS

For a full fifteen minutes

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 10:41 AM

but how many times "fifteen minutes" does that happen a month?

even once is too much. or can one sue them if it happens?
i mean, it was paid! do we get a refund? do we get goodies? new subs every time they take a server offline? can we sue them for not delivering the products/services, claiming we do not care about their server maintenance?

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 10:45 AM

By all means, sue them, that's the American way

LuboS · 01-31-10, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

For a full fifteen minutes

Neal,
just imagine what these 15 minutes do, when you landed after really successful mission (f.e. during campaign) and you are expecting new shinny medal ... or after really good online fight with many air victories ...
just 2 of many possible examples (both already happened to me) ...

- LuboS

PS: sorry for my poor english ...

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 11:08 AM

LuboS,

Yeah, not a good thing.

Nisgeis · 01-31-10, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyOctober

Dont compare the ROF DRM with the UBI DRM...not the same producer, not the same technology, not the same servers. Although the basic principle of protecting a game with Internet connection is the same, the similarities stop there.

DON'T

JUMP

TO

CONCLUSIONS.

EXACTLY RIGHT!

. There's no guarantee that Ubi's system will be as reliable as ROF's.

.

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

By all means, sue them, that's the American way

I mean... sue them, just because you forbid Violence.
If i could have spoken my mind I would go and buy me an "American way"

Baseball bat, and pay a friendly visit to the worldwide top dogs

that had this "online only=no piracy" idea.

One might think that such an expression WOULD HAVE BEEN a little extreme, but, the way i see it, this "Control Mania" is part of the Way Humanity is heading. Bar-Code tatoos when you are born, and with a Wifi-device in your head, so that the Governments and companies can track your identity and habits, and manipulate you and whatnot.

But alas

, as both of us do not like Violence; i do not say such things, but only attempt to drag them to court...

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 12:00 PM

Lol, ok, I think I see: a game company makes a game and adds copy protection you don't like, so that means it's time to hit people with a baseball bat

Yikes! I'm glad people in this forum don't apply that approach to me--"Hey, I have to log in to post? What the H377 is this **&*%$#%$ %#$*&^% ??!!?? I'm grabbing my Mickey Mantel and heading down to Houston to pay Onkel Neal a visit!!"

I'm kidding, I know you are not a violent guy, we can joke, right? Right?

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 12:02 PM

*plays with Baseball bat*

Heh. you wanna taste my soup?

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 12:06 PM

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 12:10 PM

JScones · 02-01-10, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

EXACTLY RIGHT!

. There's no guarantee that Ubi's system will be as reliable as ROF's.

.

Ragtag · 02-01-10, 04:37 AM

Well, the ROF DRM wasn't good enough either. Again we see that the paying customer suffers while the pirates play with no DRM. As i see it not all "pirates" download games or cracks just because it's free. Some wants to get away from the DRM's and the problems it causes. There is no way that i'm buying any Ubisoft game with the OSP no matter how much i want to play it.

Highbury · 02-01-10, 09:15 AM

ROF does use pretty much exactly the same DRM system as what is described for SHV. I have played it since launch and the DRM has not been an issue for me, but I am fortunate to have good broadband.

As for the long load times, that is just because ROF is a CPU pig. When you download a custom mission they are usually well under 1mb. It is just files that trigger objects already on your PC. One of the devs stated that in the average stock mission you are loading 1.5GB of info, even a fast CPU will take a bit of time with that. Optimizing the load times has always been a hot topic on the forums. I would guess that the server is only transferring these small files when you are playing custom missions but who knows.... one of the guys on the boards said his ROF server used 40x the bandwith of his IL-2 server

janh · 02-01-10, 10:41 AM

Nice, someone coming up with facts! I hope the ones still supporting UBI strategy read this and start thinking a bit more critical.

01-31-10, 10:41 AM	#17
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	but how many times "fifteen minutes" does that happen a month? even once is too much. or can one sue them if it happens? i mean, it was paid! do we get a refund? do we get goodies? new subs every time they take a server offline? can we sue them for not delivering the products/services, claiming we do not care about their server maintenance? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 10:45 AM	#18
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	By all means, sue them, that's the American way __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-31-10, 11:08 AM	#20
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	LuboS, Yeah, not a good thing. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-31-10, 12:00 PM	#23
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Lol, ok, I think I see: a game company makes a game and adds copy protection you don't like, so that means it's time to hit people with a baseball bat Yikes! I'm glad people in this forum don't apply that approach to me--"Hey, I have to log in to post? What the H377 is this *&%$#%$ %#$&^% ??!!?? I'm grabbing my Mickey Mantel and heading down to Houston to pay Onkel Neal a visit!!" I'm kidding, I know you are not a violent guy, we can joke, right? Right? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web*

01-31-10, 12:02 PM	#24
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	plays with Baseball bat Heh. you wanna taste my soup? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 12:06 PM	#25
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	__________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-31-10, 12:10 PM	#26
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	__________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

02-01-10, 04:37 AM	#28
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	Well, the ROF DRM wasn't good enough either. Again we see that the paying customer suffers while the pirates play with no DRM. As i see it not all "pirates" download games or cracks just because it's free. Some wants to get away from the DRM's and the problems it causes. There is no way that i'm buying any Ubisoft game with the OSP no matter how much i want to play it. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD. Last edited by Onkel Neal; 02-01-10 at 09:18 AM.

02-01-10, 09:15 AM	#29
Highbury The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 51.557, -0.102 Posts: 1,311 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	ROF does use pretty much exactly the same DRM system as what is described for SHV. I have played it since launch and the DRM has not been an issue for me, but I am fortunate to have good broadband. As for the long load times, that is just because ROF is a CPU pig. When you download a custom mission they are usually well under 1mb. It is just files that trigger objects already on your PC. One of the devs stated that in the average stock mission you are loading 1.5GB of info, even a fast CPU will take a bit of time with that. Optimizing the load times has always been a hot topic on the forums. I would guess that the server is only transferring these small files when you are playing custom missions but who knows.... one of the guys on the boards said his ROF server used 40x the bandwith of his IL-2 server

02-01-10, 10:41 AM	#30
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	nice Nice, someone coming up with facts! I hope the ones still supporting UBI strategy read this and start thinking a bit more critical.