I have this DRM in Rise of Flight

LuboS · 01-31-10, 06:18 AM

I have RoF too.
High end PC, broadband connection and still loading times of every mission are really ridiculous ...
And btw, right now authorization server for RoF is down, so no one can play ...

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=7091

- LuboS

Letum · 01-31-10, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuboS

And btw, right now authorization server for RoF is down, so no one can play ...

Take note all!

Hitman · 01-31-10, 08:17 AM

As I posted in another thread, anyone who has modded knows that the best part of the time goes in loading & reloading the game to test the changes, as well as the effects of research modifications you do.

Do you have an idea what it might mean for a modder to have to wait EACH TIME until the friggin server checks that he is not a pirate and allows the game to load? Those familiar with ROF, with similar online protection, know that load times that could be very quick are ethernal due to the damned protection system. So I bet this will discourage most modders to work with SH5, unless they have resolved to expend their entire lives on that ...

And what game do you think is best? SH4 stock or SH3 modded with f.e. GWX? You bet the answer is clear, and so will it be for SH5 ... a modded SH4 or even SH3 predecessor will probably kick its butt by far. And because modding SH5 will be a nightmare due to the DRM, then it will never take off really, unlike what happened with SH3/4

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuboS

I have RoF too.
High end PC, broadband connection and still loading times of every mission are really ridiculous ...
And btw, right now authorization server for RoF is down, so no one can play ...

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=7091

- LuboS

For a full fifteen minutes

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 10:41 AM

but how many times "fifteen minutes" does that happen a month?

even once is too much. or can one sue them if it happens?
i mean, it was paid! do we get a refund? do we get goodies? new subs every time they take a server offline? can we sue them for not delivering the products/services, claiming we do not care about their server maintenance?

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 10:45 AM

By all means, sue them, that's the American way

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

By all means, sue them, that's the American way

I mean... sue them, just because you forbid Violence.
If i could have spoken my mind I would go and buy me an "American way"

Baseball bat, and pay a friendly visit to the worldwide top dogs

that had this "online only=no piracy" idea.

One might think that such an expression WOULD HAVE BEEN a little extreme, but, the way i see it, this "Control Mania" is part of the Way Humanity is heading. Bar-Code tatoos when you are born, and with a Wifi-device in your head, so that the Governments and companies can track your identity and habits, and manipulate you and whatnot.

But alas

, as both of us do not like Violence; i do not say such things, but only attempt to drag them to court...

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 12:00 PM

Lol, ok, I think I see: a game company makes a game and adds copy protection you don't like, so that means it's time to hit people with a baseball bat

Yikes! I'm glad people in this forum don't apply that approach to me--"Hey, I have to log in to post? What the H377 is this **&*%$#%$ %#$*&^% ??!!?? I'm grabbing my Mickey Mantel and heading down to Houston to pay Onkel Neal a visit!!"

I'm kidding, I know you are not a violent guy, we can joke, right? Right?

HundertzehnGustav · 01-31-10, 12:02 PM

*plays with Baseball bat*

Heh. you wanna taste my soup?

LuboS · 01-31-10, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

For a full fifteen minutes

Neal,
just imagine what these 15 minutes do, when you landed after really successful mission (f.e. during campaign) and you are expecting new shinny medal ... or after really good online fight with many air victories ...
just 2 of many possible examples (both already happened to me) ...

- LuboS

PS: sorry for my poor english ...

Onkel Neal · 01-31-10, 11:08 AM

LuboS,

Yeah, not a good thing.

01-31-10, 08:17 AM	#3
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	As I posted in another thread, anyone who has modded knows that the best part of the time goes in loading & reloading the game to test the changes, as well as the effects of research modifications you do. Do you have an idea what it might mean for a modder to have to wait EACH TIME until the friggin server checks that he is not a pirate and allows the game to load? Those familiar with ROF, with similar online protection, know that load times that could be very quick are ethernal due to the damned protection system. So I bet this will discourage most modders to work with SH5, unless they have resolved to expend their entire lives on that ... And what game do you think is best? SH4 stock or SH3 modded with f.e. GWX? You bet the answer is clear, and so will it be for SH5 ... a modded SH4 or even SH3 predecessor will probably kick its butt by far. And because modding SH5 will be a nightmare due to the DRM, then it will never take off really, unlike what happened with SH3/4 __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

01-31-10, 10:41 AM	#5
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	but how many times "fifteen minutes" does that happen a month? even once is too much. or can one sue them if it happens? i mean, it was paid! do we get a refund? do we get goodies? new subs every time they take a server offline? can we sue them for not delivering the products/services, claiming we do not care about their server maintenance? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 10:45 AM	#6
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	By all means, sue them, that's the American way __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

01-31-10, 12:00 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Lol, ok, I think I see: a game company makes a game and adds copy protection you don't like, so that means it's time to hit people with a baseball bat Yikes! I'm glad people in this forum don't apply that approach to me--"Hey, I have to log in to post? What the H377 is this *&%$#%$ %#$&^% ??!!?? I'm grabbing my Mickey Mantel and heading down to Houston to pay Onkel Neal a visit!!" I'm kidding, I know you are not a violent guy, we can joke, right? Right? __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web*

01-31-10, 12:02 PM	#9
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	plays with Baseball bat Heh. you wanna taste my soup? __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-31-10, 06:18 AM	#1
LuboS Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 6 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I have RoF too. High end PC, broadband connection and still loading times of every mission are really ridiculous ... And btw, right now authorization server for RoF is down, so no one can play ... http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=7091 - LuboS

01-31-10, 11:08 AM	#11
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	LuboS, Yeah, not a good thing. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web