The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[BulSoldier]

It pretty much is clear why the nonsense and holding back info in the dev q&a. It ramains to be seen what is going to happen to the genre, but the way i see it, the only way to support it is to show the publisher that the majority of the community doesnt want halffinished products at full cost that has more reqirments than a pair of babies.

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by trenken

Well I was in florida at school, so I guess around 97. I got it after it came out though, I dont know when it was released.

Mind if I ask what you were in school for?

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Join me, won't you? I hear she has a sister.

I would! But would have to evade a very observant DD (wife) that guards the harbor exit..

[trenken]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Mind if I ask what you were in school for?

3D Animation. That's what I still do, although Ive branched out a lot more since. Went to a school called Full Sail in Orlando.

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by trenken

Come on, that's silly. All Im saying is give it a chance. Dont bail on it just yet, the damn game isnt even out. Wait for some reviews, see what the users think.

All you guys going nuts over this is crazy to me. I dont get it.

Look, I own a superb PC, and have a rock solid 10 megaBYTE connection. I can play the game at home, no problem. During this year I've had to travel about 20 hours a week by train to get to my naval university. I also live in a school dorm which doens't have net. But I'm also a cadet on VLCC's (tankers). I don't have net there for 4 months. I have a superb laptop too, 4000 euros worth. I can play anything except for online games. We have access to the ship's net, we can play LAN games, we're allowed to send and recieve 1 mail per day or even log on Yahoo on the Radioman's station. Now tell me, how am I supposed to play SH5? Traffic or speed isn't the issue here. I don't care if it's 1 kbps... I can't play it. Ubisoft is about to implement this DRM on all of it's future games, including the one which I've been waiting for since Il-2... Storm of War. I'll get an HMD just for it, and a good portable stick. How else to waste 8 hours a day? So you see? I can't afford this new direction. I can't afford to support such a dreadful thing. I want to support games, I like collecting game boxes, I don't want to see "Microprose" fall again. But I can't support this, not now. Maybe in the future we'll all have internet running through our blood-nanobots.

[makman94]

well, i think that it will be the first time that i will not pay for a silent hunter!
all previous versions were fully paid ,in order to express my thanks to the devs (to the devs...not to ubi) and then cracked .
now,who is 'hiding' behind its finger?
but,...what is doing ubi is unacceptable by any meaning! internet connections are very unstable for many many reasons and i don't want to depend from anyone once i have paid to buy the game !
the only way to get my money for 'rending' me a game (as a member very correctly said) is to get its price to 1 dollar ! no more than this becuase they can 'take' it from me anytime they want (or the time that i really would like to play it and the internet....#$@$@! !!)
this game will be fully paid when (and if) ever it is cracked .then they will get my thanks

ps: to ubi: it will be better to spent your efforts to give unbugged games to market ...instead of only trying to get the money !

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by trenken

3D Animation. That's what I still do, although Ive branched out a lot more since. Went to a school called Full Sail in Orlando.

Good to hear your liking it. How long have you been doing 3D animation?

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by sober

Oh yeah, Sh5 is easier to mod . They didnt say you could play a modded game online with a drm though.

This is why, despite my frustration at the idea, I'm going to stay at least on the sideline watching how the release goes and monitoring the radio room. If it ends up being transparent and not obtrusive, I'll be receptive...if it ends up causing massive headaches, I'll and stay out.

We simply don't know how it's going to practically work until they actually release it.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Look, I own a superb PC, and have a rock solid 10 megaBYTE connection. I can play the game at home, no problem. During this year I've had to travel about 20 hours a week by train to get to my naval university. I also live in a school dorm which doens't have net. But I'm also a cadet on VLCC's (tankers). I don't have net there for 4 months. I have a superb laptop too, 4000 euros worth. I can play anything except for online games. We have access to the ship's net, we can play LAN games, we're allowed to send and recieve 1 mail per day or even log on Yahoo on the Radioman's station. Now tell me, how am I supposed to play SH5? Traffic or speed isn't the issue here. I don't care if it's 1 kbps... I can't play it. Ubisoft is about to implement this DRM on all of it's future games, including the one which I've been waiting for since Il-2... Storm of War. I'll get an HMD just for it, and a good portable stick. How else to waste 8 hours a day? So you see? I can't afford this new direction. I can't afford to support such a dreadful thing. I want to support games, I like collecting game boxes, I don't want to see "Microprose" fall again. But I can't support this, not now. Maybe in the future we'll all have internet running through our blood-nanobots.

I get what you're saying, that definitely sucks, but it's a specialized situation. Im not too sure the guys are Ubi are saying, "well what about the guy that has to go to school and cant get internet?"

I'm seeing more and more games using this, everyone's jumping on board, and some people will get left behind. That's just the way it is. Sucks for them, but apparently these dev's think that it's worth it. We cant change that, and there's not nearly enough people to start some sort of movement against it. People are still buying these games because the fact is most of us do have broadband at all times, not all, but most that would play these modern games.

[floundericiousWA]

what you mean 'we,' kemo sabe?

[hyperion2206]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Old farts like us better find something different to do.

You know what's really sad? That I'm an old fart now and I'm only 23...

Originally Posted by makman94

well, i think that it will be the first time that i will not pay for a silent hunter!
all previous versions were fully paid ,in order to express my thanks to the devs (to the devs...not to ubi) and then cracked .
now,who is 'hiding' behind its finger?
but,...what is doing ubi is unacceptable by any meaning! internet connections are very unstable for many many reasons and i don't want to depend from anyone once i have paid to buy the game !
the only way to get my money for 'rending' me a game (as a member very correctly said) is to get its price to 1 dollar ! no more than this becuase they can 'take' it from me anytime they want (or the time that i really would like to play it and the internet....#$@$@! !!)
this game will be fully paid when (and if) ever it is cracked .then they will get my thanks

ps: to ubi: it will be better to spent your efforts to give unbugged games to market ...instead of only trying to get the money !

it is easy to see this is a translation error and you meant to say "DRM free" but speaking of cracks can get you in trouble so it is best avoid using this word

[trenken]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Good to hear your liking it. How long have you been doing 3D animation?

Honestly I didnt start doing it til I got to school. I played games and whatnot before, but I wanted to learn something new, so I just signed up and here I am, still doing it 12 years later.

It wasnt very hard at all to learn, even for me with no experience before getting there, but like anything else it takes practice to get good at it. Anyone can do it though, you dont need any sort of inherent skill aside from the ability and willingness to learn.

Originally Posted by trenken

I'm seeing more and more games using this, everyone's jumping on board, and some people will get left behind. That's just the way it is. Sucks for them, but apparently these dev's think that it's worth it. We cant change that, and there's not nearly enough people to start some sort of movement against it. People are still buying these games because the fact is most of us do have broadband at all times, not all, but most that would play these modern games.

you know they said the same thing about electric cars and global warming and carbon emissions and with each one "they" found people will only be pushed so far before they push back and say no to such BS

[makman94]

Originally Posted by Webster

it is easy to see this is a translation error and you meant to say "DRM free" but speaking of cracks can get you in trouble so it is best avoid using this word

sure Webster...."DRM free" ...exactly this !