The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[badkarma]

Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

What about people who play these games on laptops on long travel trips? What about the MANY active and reserve submariners who've served on honest to god military subs who frequent these boards and play these games during off-duty breaks while on deployment? "Skipper, can we surface so I can get a satellite internet connection to play my copy of Silent Hunter 5???"

Originally Posted by trenken

They'll be left behind, happens every generation, people unwilling to accept the new ways of things. Its happening on this very site today.

They should obviously get another job, and move house in trenken's perfect world.
I was getting pretty pissed at you earlier trenken but now I just pity you. You're the exact reason people get away with things they shouldn't in this modern age.
"It's no use causing trouble"
"I can't change anything"
"It'll happen no matter what I do"
It's a tragic example of 21st century "Western" world thinking.

Seriously mate, I pity you.

[BulSoldier]

My gaming computer is where i live (not here from my parents home from witch i am writing) and there i dont have internet connection at all for reasons i cant explain here. So what it comes to is that i cannot play the game because i dont have internet.
And thats why i am copletly against things like steam or drm.I never liked them and i am pretty sure i never will.

Originally Posted by trenken

You're right, ive only been playing these games for many years now. Im just not stuck in the past, thats all. Modding is over, let it go. Its up to ubi, so ill just roll with the flow. Crying about it here will do nothing for me.

modding is what this community is about and only from modding did the silent hunter series survive to this day and if you knew anything about the series you wouldnt be making comments like that so if you are not into modding then im not sure what you are here for.

you have stated your opinion on DRM and it is obvious the rest of the community does not agree with you on that but everyone is entitled to their opinion so if we dont have a problem with you liking DRM then why do you continue to insist we wake up and start loving it.

this is really getting old so please tone it down a little

[trenken]

Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

Stuff it.

??

You seriously expect game dev's to just spend the next 10 years making sure their games work for dialup? I cant even relate to that kind of thinking.

Maybe you dont have money, maybe you cant get broadband in your area, but dont expect the entire industry to wait up. Thats a little silly.

[Rosencrantz]

Trenken wrote:

How is that your concern? It is what it is now, many of these dev's want to use this system, so what are the few of us going to do about that?

Why are you talking all the time what the community can and what it can't do?

"Many of the devs" and " the few of us"???


Jesus, there is over 40 000 of "us" only in the subsim. And much more around the globe and other sites. How many devs you think build up the game? 10 000 000???????????'


-RC-

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

You know what.. I'll go ask Neal to let me chill a bit in the Brig. If I continue this I might end up there anyway. However, if you completely ignore trenken's inability to comprehend why this type of DRM is different from all the others, you'll see that he is indeed right. Old farts like us better find something different to do. For example, play GWX... I will not support a game or a company that continues in this fashion. If the SH5 community must die before birth, at least it might prevent the SoW one from doing the same.

Relax man.
Have a beer or two. It must 5 o'clock somewhere, right?

[trenken]

Originally Posted by Webster

modding is what this community is about and only from modding did the silent hunter series survive to this day and if you knew anything about the series you wouldnt be making comments like that so if you are not into modding then im not sure what you are here for.

Everyone loves user created content, it's my favorite part of games. I play a game on the xbox called forza 3, its a racing game. I hang out and just paint cars all day and sell them to people.

But this is all done through an in game system. The dev tools are built into the game for use to use. Its very cool, maybe they will put something out like this for SH5?

Charge maybe $10-20 for it, and suddenly you dont need to be a modder to make new things, you've got a tool to help you do it.

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by trenken

??

You seriously expect game dev's to just spend the next 10 years making sure their games work for dialup? I cant even relate to that kind of thinking.

Maybe you dont have money, maybe you cant get broadband in your area, but dont expect the entire industry to wait up. Thats a little silly.

I didn't say that, the "stuff it" was to your snooty "well you should go play online checkers" comment.

I expect the developers to do their best to make the best, most enjoyable game they can in the time and budget allocated to them. If I like it and can live with it, then I'll shake hands and buy it.

I'm struggling to figure out your angle here...you sure are bending over backwards.

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by trenken

Trust me, Im well aware of all the mods. I have tons of them installed on my PC, all kinds of boat skins, better textures of the land, random weather, all of it.

All im saying is that ubi has decided to end that, so what am I going to do now? Well im going to find some way to enjoy SH5. I guess im the freaking nut around here trying to be positive, but thats okay with me. Im a happy guy, I dont get mad about computer crap, especially changes in games. Total waste of time.

Well according the the devs they have made it easier to mod
So one doesnt stack with the other
IF the SH series was in any way accurate or finished when released then there would be no need for mods and we would play as delivered BUT we all know that is never gonna happen

As I care not for shoot em ups it does matter to me the future of a decent ( ish ) subsim
And many here which is why ppl get a lil ticked off

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by Thomen

Relax man.
Have a beer or two. It must 5 o'clock somewhere, right?

Join me, won't you? I hear she has a sister.

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Join me, won't you? I hear she has a sister.

I'll take one of those!

ciao for now

[tater]

Originally Posted by trenken

Who the hell has a machine advanced enough to run a 2010 PC game with dial-up, you're grasiping at straws at this point.

I get that broadband isnt even offered in some places, but im sorry you just cant make a game these days for everyone. Most people have broadband and have an internet connection at all times, end of story. the contant connection complaint is so ridiculous to me. What is this 1996?

Fine, Ubi wants to write-off X% of the box-game market because the customers have to have a full-time connection to play an offline game. great. Sub sims are huge sellers, they can afford to throw X% of the market share interested in their title in the trash.

Oh, and 80% of the people here on subsim who otherwise would have been sure sales.

I have broadband. None the less it can be flakey.

I'm fine with a way for the devs to protect their intellectual property. This is not it, and will, as many have said, be instantly cracked anyway.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

You know what.. I'll go ask Neal to let me chill a bit in the Brig. If I continue this I might end up there anyway. However, if you completely ignore trenken's inability to comprehend why this type of DRM is different from all the others, you'll see that he is indeed right. Old farts like us better find something different to do. For example, play GWX... I will not support a game or a company that continues in this fashion. If the SH5 community must die before birth, at least it might prevent the SoW one from doing the same.

Come on, that's silly. All Im saying is give it a chance. Dont bail on it just yet, the damn game isnt even out. Wait for some reviews, see what the users think.

All you guys going nuts over this is crazy to me. I dont get it.

[THE_MASK]

Oh yeah, Sh5 is easier to mod . They didnt say you could play a modded game online with a drm though.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

I didn't say that, the "stuff it" was to your snooty "well you should go play online checkers" comment.

I expect the developers to do their best to make the best, most enjoyable game they can in the time and budget allocated to them. If I like it and can live with it, then I'll shake hands and buy it.

I'm struggling to figure out your angle here...you sure are bending over backwards.

Oh I was joking with the checkers comment. Wasnt anything against you, I just mean in general you always see this with technology. Things are always progressing. Its great for people willing to accept it.

Thats why I brought up the VHS thing. There are still people out there in old vintage stores looking for VHSs, but its all DVD now.

Well same deal is happening with games, once again. Its getting to the point where you now need constant connections to play games. Well deal with it or be the guy in the used game bin trying to find games that dont require internet connections.

See what I mean?