The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[trenken]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

You know what.. I'll go ask Neal to let me chill a bit in the Brig. If I continue this I might end up there anyway. However, if you completely ignore trenken's inability to comprehend why this type of DRM is different from all the others, you'll see that he is indeed right. Old farts like us better find something different to do. For example, play GWX... I will not support a game or a company that continues in this fashion. If the SH5 community must die before birth, at least it might prevent the SoW one from doing the same.

Come on, that's silly. All Im saying is give it a chance. Dont bail on it just yet, the damn game isnt even out. Wait for some reviews, see what the users think.

All you guys going nuts over this is crazy to me. I dont get it.

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by trenken

Come on, that's silly. All Im saying is give it a chance. Dont bail on it just yet, the damn game isnt even out. Wait for some reviews, see what the users think.

All you guys going nuts over this is crazy to me. I dont get it.

Look, I own a superb PC, and have a rock solid 10 megaBYTE connection. I can play the game at home, no problem. During this year I've had to travel about 20 hours a week by train to get to my naval university. I also live in a school dorm which doens't have net. But I'm also a cadet on VLCC's (tankers). I don't have net there for 4 months. I have a superb laptop too, 4000 euros worth. I can play anything except for online games. We have access to the ship's net, we can play LAN games, we're allowed to send and recieve 1 mail per day or even log on Yahoo on the Radioman's station. Now tell me, how am I supposed to play SH5? Traffic or speed isn't the issue here. I don't care if it's 1 kbps... I can't play it. Ubisoft is about to implement this DRM on all of it's future games, including the one which I've been waiting for since Il-2... Storm of War. I'll get an HMD just for it, and a good portable stick. How else to waste 8 hours a day? So you see? I can't afford this new direction. I can't afford to support such a dreadful thing. I want to support games, I like collecting game boxes, I don't want to see "Microprose" fall again. But I can't support this, not now. Maybe in the future we'll all have internet running through our blood-nanobots.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Look, I own a superb PC, and have a rock solid 10 megaBYTE connection. I can play the game at home, no problem. During this year I've had to travel about 20 hours a week by train to get to my naval university. I also live in a school dorm which doens't have net. But I'm also a cadet on VLCC's (tankers). I don't have net there for 4 months. I have a superb laptop too, 4000 euros worth. I can play anything except for online games. We have access to the ship's net, we can play LAN games, we're allowed to send and recieve 1 mail per day or even log on Yahoo on the Radioman's station. Now tell me, how am I supposed to play SH5? Traffic or speed isn't the issue here. I don't care if it's 1 kbps... I can't play it. Ubisoft is about to implement this DRM on all of it's future games, including the one which I've been waiting for since Il-2... Storm of War. I'll get an HMD just for it, and a good portable stick. How else to waste 8 hours a day? So you see? I can't afford this new direction. I can't afford to support such a dreadful thing. I want to support games, I like collecting game boxes, I don't want to see "Microprose" fall again. But I can't support this, not now. Maybe in the future we'll all have internet running through our blood-nanobots.

I get what you're saying, that definitely sucks, but it's a specialized situation. Im not too sure the guys are Ubi are saying, "well what about the guy that has to go to school and cant get internet?"

I'm seeing more and more games using this, everyone's jumping on board, and some people will get left behind. That's just the way it is. Sucks for them, but apparently these dev's think that it's worth it. We cant change that, and there's not nearly enough people to start some sort of movement against it. People are still buying these games because the fact is most of us do have broadband at all times, not all, but most that would play these modern games.

[floundericiousWA]

what you mean 'we,' kemo sabe?

Originally Posted by trenken

I'm seeing more and more games using this, everyone's jumping on board, and some people will get left behind. That's just the way it is. Sucks for them, but apparently these dev's think that it's worth it. We cant change that, and there's not nearly enough people to start some sort of movement against it. People are still buying these games because the fact is most of us do have broadband at all times, not all, but most that would play these modern games.

you know they said the same thing about electric cars and global warming and carbon emissions and with each one "they" found people will only be pushed so far before they push back and say no to such BS

[tater]

Originally Posted by trenken

Come on, that's silly. All Im saying is give it a chance. Dont bail on it just yet, the damn game isnt even out. Wait for some reviews, see what the users think.

All you guys going nuts over this is crazy to me. I dont get it.

The forum response is 100% predictable. 100%.

It would be true in any sim forum I am on, too. All of them.

Such systems are designed to mitigate criminal behavior, but only actually impact honest customers. The pirates won't pay regardless. If the system actually works, no pirates will play the game at all. What % of them will buy the game they cannot steal? Ubi is betting that a higher number of those pirates will shell out money than honest people will bail on the title.

I think virtually none of the pirates will pay, so every loss here will directly affect total sales.