Hacked Emails Show Climate Science Ridden with Rancor

CaptainHaplo · 12-05-09, 07:29 PM

Neon - I think we agree on some things here.

So let me ask you. Should we, as the animals at the apex, be taking steps to insure our own survival against the cycles of nature? If so, wouldn't it stand to reason that nature will react drastically should we do so? To borrow from "The Lion King" - it is the circle of life that your saying we should be altering.

In one sense, yes - our existence alters the environment. However, isn't that alteration "natural" given the makeup of our species? Thus, our actions and its impact are in effect, a "natural" occurance. They are a product of humanity's "evolution" from its primitive roots. When people talk about modifying society's behavior to keep from "altering the natural course" of things, are they not altering the natural course of things by that very modification?

Climate change proponents state that we must change our society to maintain an ecosystem. Just a postulation - but wouldn't that change alter not just the forecasted weather - but the entire fabric of nature in all its facets by changing the track of natural evolution? Isn't maintaining an ecosystem, when the natural progression is to have that ecosystem change, a worse meddling in the affairs of what we all fail to understand in its entirety?

Granted, these questions border more on the philisophical, but they are thoughts that are rattling around my head at the moment.

12-05-09, 07:29 PM	#11
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Neon - I think we agree on some things here. So let me ask you. Should we, as the animals at the apex, be taking steps to insure our own survival against the cycles of nature? If so, wouldn't it stand to reason that nature will react drastically should we do so? To borrow from "The Lion King" - it is the circle of life that your saying we should be altering. In one sense, yes - our existence alters the environment. However, isn't that alteration "natural" given the makeup of our species? Thus, our actions and its impact are in effect, a "natural" occurance. They are a product of humanity's "evolution" from its primitive roots. When people talk about modifying society's behavior to keep from "altering the natural course" of things, are they not altering the natural course of things by that very modification? Climate change proponents state that we must change our society to maintain an ecosystem. Just a postulation - but wouldn't that change alter not just the forecasted weather - but the entire fabric of nature in all its facets by changing the track of natural evolution? Isn't maintaining an ecosystem, when the natural progression is to have that ecosystem change, a worse meddling in the affairs of what we all fail to understand in its entirety? Granted, these questions border more on the philisophical, but they are thoughts that are rattling around my head at the moment. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo