Promotion and Medal presentation SH 5

[JScones]

Originally Posted by 4Para

wouldnt it be great ( captains only ) if there was some kind of short film footage toward ones achievments, lets say 5 second clip of donitz presenting promotions/ lower medals. perhaps adolf on earning knights cross? even if this were in some kind of annimation!! iam sure it beats looking at a medal with words of praise, to be suddenly put in box. after all the love of the game!! sim, inspiration certainly helps during those long patrols, the looking foward to returning to base. Medals/ stripes/ Fraus/ beer/ and gossip with thomsen leaves one of satisfaction. you think??

I agree. I remember Panzer Commander had a static screen. Nothing extravagant, but better than nothing.

Originally Posted by Sevrin

One thing I had always imagined was that instead of a 'medal box', there be a screen that shows a tunic, with your rank and insignia added as you earn them. Something that can be zoomed in or rotated, and hovering the cursor over a particular award will show a description...

Maybe even have the option to show (some) of the awards as ribbon bars instead of badges.

Kinda hard to explain exactly, but it would show your progression in a different way I think, rather than a wooden box with cut-outs waiting to be filled in.

I agree. I actually built a prototype of this in SH3Cmdr, where when the user selects the Crew Manager screen they get a bust of each crewmen with rank/medals/badges/quals mounted. Unfortunately, I couldn't get an artist with free time to help finish it.

Originally Posted by Sevrin

Oh, and the accompanying documents would be a nice addition to the award also.

Again, another feature that fell by the wayside in SH3Cmdr through lack of help, but one that I'd love to see in SH5.

[Dowly]

Somekind of drawn pic would be nice, kinda like the screens you see in SH4 for stuff. I dont mind having uncle Adolf presenting awards, maybe draw it so that Adolf is facing away from the "camera", so you dont see his face, but you still know who the man is. Maybe draw him from back and right, so he is standing in an small angle, so that the swastika on the left sleeve wouldnt be visible (but you'd see abit of his left arm and part of the red banner) and only a portion of his face would be visible. I think everyone would be happy with that.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by JScones

Again, another feature that fell by the wayside in SH3Cmdr through lack of help, but one that I'd love to see in SH5.

What you mean lack of help? The way I remember it quite a few people helped to search for the documents for you?

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Dowly

What you mean lack of help? The way I remember it quite a few people helped to search for the documents for you?

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

Originally Posted by JScones

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

I'm not great working with graphics, decent with photoshop, etc., but if you decide to do any work in this area for SH5, I have a LOT of source material to scan.

Anything Iron cross related, literally from its inception to post-war I've got covered; every grade imaginable including rare variants, presentation documents, award cases, etc...

Might as well put some of this stuff to use.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Sevrin

I'm not great working with graphics, decent with photoshop, etc., but if you decide to do any work in this area for SH5, I have a LOT of source material to scan.

Anything Iron cross related, literally from its inception to post-war I've got covered; every grade imaginable including rare variants, presentation documents, award cases, etc...

Might as well put some of this stuff to use.

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Thanks. Checkout the thread I linked above that shows where I got up to - it could effortlessly be ported over to SH5 (if needed). To that end, if you have full size scans of any awarded documents, that would be absolutely brilliant.

Originally Posted by JScones

Thanks. Checkout the thread I linked above that shows where I got up to - it could effortlessly be ported over to SH5 (if needed). To that end, if you have full size scans of any awarded documents, that would be absolutely brilliant.

No problem. Will have a new scanner by the time the game's released, so we should end up with some very good material if we need it.

Be interesting to see how in depth they go on the awards, or if it's just kind of an after-thought. No doubt it'll be 'fill in the box' again...

[Lord Justice]

Originally Posted by Sevrin

No problem. Will have a new scanner by the time the game's released, so we should end up with some very good material if we need it.

Be interesting to see how in depth they go on the awards, or if it's just kind of an after-thought. No doubt it'll be 'fill in the box' again...

lol dont say that, for what ive seen you guys can do it, if only they allow it and make it so.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by JScones

Check out http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=131580&page=4 where I was seeking graphics assistance.

Getting the documents was fine, thanks mainly to you for your great high-resolution scans. It all fell apart at the document cleanup stage. I'm useless at graphics. LzZ was very helpful, but recognised his limitations. I asked a few of the "better known" graphic artists whether they could help clean up the files (mainly by PM), as well as in my thread, but didn't get too far. Not their fault of course - RL should override anything games related.

Anyway, you can see where I got up to in the thread linked above, as I pretty much posted SH3Cmdr-generated examples, warts and all, of each certificate.

Ah, right. I forgot the thread at some point, so.

I think those documents would be maybe the best to do again from scratch, easy and quick job and would make it look consistent with any "new" text that SH3cmdr adds i.e. the captain's name.

[thruster]

what i was thinking is this:
as youre laying on your bunk enduring yet more depthcharging, you look at the wood panelling at the end of your bunk. hanging up is your shore tunic ready for your next return.
- as your rank changes or you are decorated, your uniform tunic is modified to reflect it. simple idea huh?

whilst on the subject; white captains cap. when your POV is from the bunk as you pan the view, you should also get a view of your cap sitting on your desk. caps are very individual and can be stylised, so how about selecting one from a drop list?

personalising the sub. how about adding several pictures on walls or in frames. these should be modifiable to reflect your story. also posters that can be modifiable/personalised to suit too.

the boats flag should be flying on the pole on the wintergarden. if i want to alter it to fly the skull and crossbones then i should. is that too hard?

personalisation engenders ownership to the whole thing. it should be a priority.

[Hitman]

I like very much the idea of the Dönitz/Flotilla chief (Not Adolf, please, would sure attract lots of legal issues against the game. Let the modders do that later in any case) screen/footage awarding the medals.

The only thing I would beg is please do not make it 3D if the devs can't provide good 3D human models. For me nothing kills more the inmersion of the scene than seeing unhuman cyborgs moving around.

Originally Posted by thruster

whilst on the subject; white captains cap. when your POV is from the bunk as you pan the view, you should also get a view of your cap sitting on your desk. caps are very individual and can be stylised, so how about selecting one from a drop list? personalising the sub. how about adding several pictures on walls or in frames. these should be modifiable to reflect your story. also posters that can be modifiable/personalised to suit too.

Hadn't considered that, but that's cool idea...