What have we come to? - Page 2

MothBalls · 09-30-09, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'd say you're both wrong. Conquerors from Cyrus to Darius to Alexander to Caesar to William didn't get their backing just through force of personality. Those armies were full of young men who were in it simply for the chance to loot, pillage, rape and murder with some official sanctioning.

Link where can I sign up? Sounds like fun.

Damn SS, 20,000 posts by the end of the week maybe?

09-30-09, 10:54 PM

Life in Chicago since its gun ban has gone down hill very quickly. Let's bring the olympics to Chicago. Death by railroad tie can be an event.

An Obama city.

August · 10-01-09, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

That some of you are alive to post here shows the past wasn't as bad as now.

So you're saying that the teenagers of the present are all going to be dead by the time they get to our age? That's a bit of an exaggeration I think.

AVGWarhawk · 10-01-09, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I dont know, mate. If you ask me, it's much more common today.

I agree with Dowly 100%.

ETR3(SS) · 10-01-09, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by YouTube

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Fox Television Stations, Inc..

How does Fox have any sort of copyright over a cell phone video?

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

How does Fox have any sort of copyright over a cell phone video?

They pay for it.

ETR3(SS) · 10-01-09, 08:14 AM

Great, I can see where this is going already then.

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 08:38 AM

You guys that say 'nothing has changed' have your heads stuck in the sand.

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A 14-year-old boy in the city's Edgewater neighborhood was beaten and critically injured Wednesday night--suffering massive head trauma, police said.

"He was covered in blood. Blood was all over the street," said the woman who called police to the scene. "It was all over his face, arms and coming down the back of his head."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...edgewater.html

AngusJS · 10-01-09, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Great, I can see where this is going already then.

They needed to show this on TV so Glenn Beck could blame it on secularism.

Are these incidents more common, or is it just that a larger number of such incidents are caught on camera nowadays, so the problem appears worse than it is?

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

They needed to show this on TV so Glenn Beck could blame it on secularism.

Are these incidents more common, or is it just that a larger number of such incidents are caught on camera nowadays, so the problem appears worse than it is?

Actually its a little of both I think. The more you see it the more you become numb to it. The number society becomes to violent acts the more of them you see.

It is not at all uncommon for a news outlet to 'buy' exclusive rights to a news story. Its up to the individual with the story to choose whom to sell those rights... usually to the highest bidder.

But I dont recall Beck even mentioning this story but then again I dont watch him religiously.

10-01-09, 09:28 AM

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You guys that say 'nothing has changed' have your heads stuck in the sand.

All thats changed is the speed and spread of the coverage. 100 years ago the same story about some teenager getting killed in a fight might just make a small article in the local paper if it was a quiet week for news in that city

AVGWarhawk · 10-01-09, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

All thats changed is the speed and spread of the coverage. 100 years ago the same story about some teenager getting killed in a fight might just make a small article in the local paper if it was a quiet week for news in that city

I would agree as information moves at the speed of light. So, is there really more of this or is it just that we get more information on an issue that has not changed over the years? I would say there is more of this. People are more embolden to do the wrong thing these days...just my opinion.

antikristuseke · 10-01-09, 09:32 AM

Indeed it is a bit of both, but more of the spread of information than rise in violence.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

All thats changed is the speed and spread of the coverage. 100 years ago the same story about some teenager getting killed in a fight might just make a small article in the local paper if it was a quiet week for news in that city

100 years ago these teens would have been slaves working on a farm.

The would have been too busy to bother with beating the crap out of one another because they belonged to the wrong club.

AngusJS · 10-01-09, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Actually its a little of both I think. The more you see it the more you become numb to it. The number society becomes to violent acts the more of them you see.

It is not at all uncommon for a news outlet to 'buy' exclusive rights to a news story. Its up to the individual with the story to choose whom to sell those rights... usually to the highest bidder.

But I dont recall Beck even mentioning this story but then again I dont watch him religiously.

I was thinking that because video is more visceral than print, the emotional impact of the video makes the problem seem larger than it is.

http://ojjdp.ncjrs.org/ojstatbb/nr20...s/chapter3.pdf

The graph on page 4 only goes to 2002, but it shows that juvenile murder rates are at their lowest since 1984.

And here's Glenn Beck in his attempt to break the record for most falsehoods uttered in ten minutes, previously held by...Glenn Beck.

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Indeed it is a bit of both, but more of the spread of information than rise in violence. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html