What have we come to?

Dowly · 09-29-09, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

This kind of **** has happened as much in the past as it does today, the difference is that news travels faster and further nowadays.

I dont know, mate. If you ask me, it's much more common today.

FIREWALL · 09-29-09, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I dont know, mate. If you ask me, it's much more common today.

Sailor Steve · 09-30-09, 10:40 AM

I'd say you're both wrong. Conquerors from Cyrus to Darius to Alexander to Caesar to William didn't get their backing just through force of personality. Those armies were full of young men who were in it simply for the chance to loot, pillage, rape and murder with some official sanctioning.

There have always been and will always be some who don't see others as human beings, but as objects for anything from derision to attack. And they're not so far from you and I.

MothBalls · 09-30-09, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I'd say you're both wrong. Conquerors from Cyrus to Darius to Alexander to Caesar to William didn't get their backing just through force of personality. Those armies were full of young men who were in it simply for the chance to loot, pillage, rape and murder with some official sanctioning.

Link where can I sign up? Sounds like fun.

Damn SS, 20,000 posts by the end of the week maybe?

09-30-09, 10:54 PM

Life in Chicago since its gun ban has gone down hill very quickly. Let's bring the olympics to Chicago. Death by railroad tie can be an event.

An Obama city.

antikristuseke · 09-30-09, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

does that make it any more acceptable ?

No, never claimed it did, just think that the claim that we have somehow sunk to new lows is incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I dont know, mate. If you ask me, it's much more common today.

It only appears to be so because news travels better. If anything societies in general are less violent than those of the past, but humans as a whole are a violent species so this sort of behavior is not surprising to me. But that does not mean I think it is justified.

Agree with Sailor Steves post 100%

AVGWarhawk · 10-01-09, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I dont know, mate. If you ask me, it's much more common today.

I agree with Dowly 100%.

ETR3(SS) · 10-01-09, 07:57 AM

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How does Fox have any sort of copyright over a cell phone video?

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

How does Fox have any sort of copyright over a cell phone video?

They pay for it.

ETR3(SS) · 10-01-09, 08:14 AM

Great, I can see where this is going already then.

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 08:38 AM

You guys that say 'nothing has changed' have your heads stuck in the sand.

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A 14-year-old boy in the city's Edgewater neighborhood was beaten and critically injured Wednesday night--suffering massive head trauma, police said.

"He was covered in blood. Blood was all over the street," said the woman who called police to the scene. "It was all over his face, arms and coming down the back of his head."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...edgewater.html

AngusJS · 10-01-09, 08:47 AM

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Great, I can see where this is going already then.

They needed to show this on TV so Glenn Beck could blame it on secularism.

Are these incidents more common, or is it just that a larger number of such incidents are caught on camera nowadays, so the problem appears worse than it is?

SteamWake · 10-01-09, 09:08 AM

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They needed to show this on TV so Glenn Beck could blame it on secularism.

Are these incidents more common, or is it just that a larger number of such incidents are caught on camera nowadays, so the problem appears worse than it is?

Actually its a little of both I think. The more you see it the more you become numb to it. The number society becomes to violent acts the more of them you see.

It is not at all uncommon for a news outlet to 'buy' exclusive rights to a news story. Its up to the individual with the story to choose whom to sell those rights... usually to the highest bidder.

But I dont recall Beck even mentioning this story but then again I dont watch him religiously.

09-30-09, 10:40 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I'd say you're both wrong. Conquerors from Cyrus to Darius to Alexander to Caesar to William didn't get their backing just through force of personality. Those armies were full of young men who were in it simply for the chance to loot, pillage, rape and murder with some official sanctioning. There have always been and will always be some who don't see others as human beings, but as objects for anything from derision to attack. And they're not so far from you and I. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Great, I can see where this is going already then. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

09-30-09, 10:54 PM	#5
CastleBravo Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Life in Chicago since its gun ban has gone down hill very quickly. Let's bring the olympics to Chicago. Death by railroad tie can be an event. An Obama city.