CIA used mock executions etc.

Originally Posted by Aramike

Who said anything about revenge, or "getting even"?

Please stick to the argument and avoid trailing off into absurdities.

My point is that I really don't give a damn if we scare people into giving information needed to protect the second most sought after target in the terrorist world (behind Israel). The fact is that our opponents are using these methods (and far worse) anyway. Therefore, there is no reason/benefit to us restricting our methods of information extraction.

People like you just want to see us fight the threat with both hands tied behind our backs, as it were. Due to your complete intrasigence on this topic, your credibility is quite low.

I know you have difficulty comprehending this, but in the real world, being nice for the sake of being nice gets people killed.

There's a lot of people, and I'm not just talking about peacefolks and hippies, who think that using torture is much more problematic then it helps. It may produce some info but more often then not it's false info. It also plays right into the hands of people who claim the US is using unethical tactics.

And I'm saying this from a pro-US point of view, I don't think torture is the smart way to go. There's decades of torture use in places in like US-proxy states in South America, it's not like this stuff is exactly new.