US National debt has reached $64 Trillion

[Digital_Trucker]

But unlike many events around the country, politicians were not allowed to speak at a separate rally in San Antonio.

"They are welcome to come and listen to us, for a change," organizers said in a statement.

Amen to that sentiment

[Enigma]

Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

[SUBMAN1]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

I just wish liberals were patriotic simply even just once in a while. Just once here and there. That would be a major improvement.

As they say, if you want to tick a liberal off, just work hard and be happy. That says it all.

-S

I just wish liberals were patriotic simply even just once in a while.

Pariotism , the last refuge of the scoundrel .

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Pariotism , the last refuge of the scoundrel .

There's nothing wrong with patriotism in its own right, but with it today, there is. It's gotten too mixed up with nationalism since 9/11.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Enigma

Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

Don't worry as soon as 2012 rolls around suddenly they will go back to their usual "America is the best thing EVAH!!"

[August]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Don't worry as soon as 2012 rolls around suddenly they will go back to their usual "America is the best thing EVAH!!"

But America IS the best thing ever! Don't you agree?

[Frame57]

Naw August....We suk which is why we are the number one destination for immingrants world wide.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by August

But America IS the best thing ever! Don't you agree?

Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

[Aramike]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

Perhaps a definition of what constitutes a "great" country is in order here, prior to handing out arbitrary grades.

For instance, I'm not religious at all and I haven't ran into any fundamentalists "ramming" their religion down my throat, as you seem to imply. That argument is an absurd invention of people who take issue with simply seeing religious symbals such as the cross in passing. Nothing is more ridiculous than the morons who are offended merely by a display of the Ten Commandments - not even the "idiotic policies such as capital punishment", as you put it.

[rubenandthejets]

The Bush legacy, a gift that keeps on giving....trillions dollars of debt!

[August]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

Since you choose to keep your location a secret I can't tell what your viewpoint is but let me assure you that what you hear in the foreign press about religion in my country is highly inaccurate.

Makes me wonder how in the US it is often the soldiers and ex-soldiers who are the most ready to be patriotic although the 'idea' of the US is small government, less stormtroopers on the streets, etc. I mean, aren't soldiers kind of part of the government? It's ultimate fail back system, so to say? Why are US soldiers so happy to defend the fat capitalists and their obese offspring by getting blown up in some foreign conflict thousands of miles away from US borders?

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by August

Since you choose to keep your location a secret I can't tell what your viewpoint is but let me assure you that what you hear in the foreign press about religion in my country is highly inaccurate.

I'm American. Based on the domestic press and my own observations, I think the number per capita / power of fundamentalists is greater in the US than in other Western countries.

But regardless, my point is that today, the quality of life in other Western countries is at least comparable, if not better, than that in the US. Thus, I don't see the basis for the US still being touted as the greatest thing since sliced bread in the 21st century.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by August

But America IS the best thing ever! Don't you agree?

Fistonia is clearly superior.