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SUBMAN1 04-25-09 12:13 PM

US National debt has reached $64 Trillion
 
The US is at an end - we are bankrupt, just that most of us don't know it yet. Politicians should be made to wear signs that say 'idiot and getting dumber' written on it, and then forced to march down main street.

$52 Trillion in liabilities and $12 Trillion in debt. That is $200K for each of us. So how exactly do we plan to pay this off? And Obama has the gall to chastise company execs even. Ridiculous.

At least someone is ticked off:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30227452/

The bad part - the rest of the world will fall with us because they are pretty much just as dumb when it comes to money and have made stupid investments in the infrastructure that will come to an end.

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Digital_Trucker 04-25-09 12:36 PM

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But unlike many events around the country, politicians were not allowed to speak at a separate rally in San Antonio.

"They are welcome to come and listen to us, for a change," organizers said in a statement.
Amen to that sentiment:yeah:

Enigma 04-25-09 01:21 PM

Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

SUBMAN1 04-25-09 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 1090640)
Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

I just wish liberals were patriotic simply even just once in a while. Just once here and there. That would be a major improvement.

As they say, if you want to tick a liberal off, just work hard and be happy. That says it all.

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Tribesman 04-25-09 08:43 PM

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I just wish liberals were patriotic simply even just once in a while.
Pariotism , the last refuge of the scoundrel .

Zachstar 04-25-09 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 1090640)
Conservatives are just so patriotic recently...

Don't worry as soon as 2012 rolls around suddenly they will go back to their usual "America is the best thing EVAH!!"

August 04-25-09 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar (Post 1090799)
Don't worry as soon as 2012 rolls around suddenly they will go back to their usual "America is the best thing EVAH!!"

But America IS the best thing ever! Don't you agree?

Frame57 04-25-09 10:01 PM

Naw August....We suk which is why we are the number one destination for immingrants world wide.:damn:

AngusJS 04-25-09 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1090806)
But America IS the best thing ever! Don't you agree?

Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

Aramike 04-26-09 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1090824)
Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

Perhaps a definition of what constitutes a "great" country is in order here, prior to handing out arbitrary grades.

For instance, I'm not religious at all and I haven't ran into any fundamentalists "ramming" their religion down my throat, as you seem to imply. That argument is an absurd invention of people who take issue with simply seeing religious symbals such as the cross in passing. Nothing is more ridiculous than the morons who are offended merely by a display of the Ten Commandments - not even the "idiotic policies such as capital punishment", as you put it.

rubenandthejets 04-26-09 06:17 AM

The Bush legacy, a gift that keeps on giving....trillions dollars of debt!

Stealth Hunter 04-26-09 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1090798)
Pariotism , the last refuge of the scoundrel .

There's nothing wrong with patriotism in its own right, but with it today, there is. It's gotten too mixed up with nationalism since 9/11.:nope:

August 04-26-09 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1090824)
Why? Many other countries offer the same liberties that the US does...as well as universal health care, efficient mass transit systems, the cultural wealth gained from millenia of history, etc...all without legions of fundamentalists trying to ram their religion down your throat, idiotic policies such as capital punishment, etc...

Of course other countries have their problems as well - there are no utopias. But I don't see any reason why the US is just so much better than anywhere else in the industrialized West. The US is ok. Not horrible, not great.

Since you choose to keep your location a secret I can't tell what your viewpoint is but let me assure you that what you hear in the foreign press about religion in my country is highly inaccurate.

OneToughHerring 04-26-09 10:50 AM

Makes me wonder how in the US it is often the soldiers and ex-soldiers who are the most ready to be patriotic although the 'idea' of the US is small government, less stormtroopers on the streets, etc. I mean, aren't soldiers kind of part of the government? It's ultimate fail back system, so to say? Why are US soldiers so happy to defend the fat capitalists and their obese offspring by getting blown up in some foreign conflict thousands of miles away from US borders?

UnderseaLcpl 04-26-09 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring (Post 1091011)
Makes me wonder how in the US it is often the soldiers and ex-soldiers who are the most ready to be patriotic although the 'idea' of the US is small government, less stormtroopers on the streets, etc. I mean, aren't soldiers kind of part of the government? It's ultimate fail back system, so to say? Why are US soldier so happy to defend the fat capitalists and their obese offspring by getting blown up in some foreign conflict thousands of miles away from US borders?

It is possible to fight for your country even if you don't agree with all of the government's policies.
I only wish it were true that we were being sent to fight by the "fat capitalists" They'd probably pay us a lot better.....


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