No no we cant have this !

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

As for interpreting the meaning, well that's been debated going back thousands of years and is still heavily debated. There is a near infinite number of interpretations to what is contained in the three books. The same could also be said of Christian and Islamic texts as well.

That's true, too. However, I think we should stick to both the facts and interpretations, but not rely upon interpretations alone.

We know the ancient Jews stuck with Babylonian views on the universe and the Earth. They believed that Earth was flat, fixed on a set of pillars, had a solid dome that covered us from the things outside and acted as the sky, and they believed that Earth was the center of the universe. Unless evidence circulates that proves they thought otherwise, then we can only conclude that they never strayed from the path of ancient Babylon's "scientific" beliefs.

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

At any rate the Catholic church (Which was the religion that controlled Europe for a very long period of time) tended to interpret the meanings in a very literal and rigid way (which some protestant sects also do). You can also see the evolution of even these quotes and how they are perceived just looking at the 3 versions quoted.

True too. I'm very happy to know now that the Catholics are a lot more open than they used to be. You know both Pope John Paul II and the current Pope Benedict accepted evolution as a scientific fact? They had a news article on it here (for John Paul):

http://biblelight.net/darwin.htm

No, the people who annoy me more than anything are Creationists and Biblical fundamentalists (people who think Noah's ark and the accounts of Genesis should be taken as fact). Have you seen some of the stuff they preach? Look here:



Doesn't it just sicken you? And the fallacies they use infuriate me even more, especially that dumbass Ken Ham. Mr. Ham, I hate to tell you this, but if dinosaurs and humans lived together, we'd be dead. The dietary habits we know they had prove that we would have been a very short-lived species.

And to the woman at 1:51, you might want to recheck the scientific evidence. And I don't mean consult Ken Ham or Kent Hovind (who is currently serving a prison sentence for over 50 counts of tax evasion), I mean actually go to a museum or a scientific institute and get the facts.

Even worse, they brainwash kids with their garbage...