Seriously, would you dare...

[ME$$ENGER]

Maybe we should just stick to talking about our personal issues here and put our complaints in PS lest some people think we have nothing better to do.

PS: DRM sucks.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Brag

but the intrusion of big business into your personal life.

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Méo

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

Oh come on, that's happened before where other companies have transferred data that they had no right to. Don't be so naive as to think that just because they shouldn't, they won't, or because it's not legal they won't. Just because they shouldn't doesn't mean they can't. Also, how about answering some of the previously posed questions in the thread, or are you going to cherry pick your responses in a Ubi-esque manner in this thread?

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Don't be so naive as to think that just because they shouldn't, they won't, or because it's not legal they won't.

Naive, Hmmm... people here are pretty quick on class action, don't you remember.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Méo

What I meant is that there is a lot of people got more important problems (family problems, love problems, money problems, alcohol problems and so on...) and they would find it ludicrious that I worry so much for this DRM thing... you know!

You know, rather than posting to COMPLAIN about all the people who are complaining about DRM, you should, according to your own motivation, be posting to say how glad you are that no one had any serious troubles, that were worse than DRM. Although, can't people have a serious personal problem AND an issue with DRM at the same time? Us humans are complex you know. I've never been a fan of the old 'Well at least you aren't <INSERT AFFLICATION OR CATASTROPHE HERE> argument for saying something isn't important. I mean, I could just say to you that if you weren't happy that people were complaining about DRM, you could instead of posting complaints about it, you could instead just consider how lucky you were to not be a blind deaf dumb giraffe named Sebastian, who was moments away from execution for a crime that you did not commit in a country where there was no possible chance of commuting your sentence to life. Becasue that would suck worse. You know it would. I mean I know you aren't a deaf dumb and blind giraffe, but you know... just imagine if you were. So think yourself lucky and don't complain about people complaining as if they have nothing worse to complain about, because that's good Sebastian!

Originally Posted by Méo

Naive, Hmmm... people here are pretty quick on class action, don't you remember.

No, I don't, refresh my memory please Sebastian?

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Also, how about answering some of the previously posed questions in the thread, or are you going to cherry pick your responses in a Ubi-esque manner in this thread?

Patience!

let me have the time to use the google translation, the urban dictionary, the thefreedictionary.com

Now what is your questions exactly? ...

[Bubblehead1980]

hmm well no one I know in real life plays SH so only on here.

However, if I was back in college in my Economics classes etc and this discussion would fit, I would bring up it up in general terms, would spark a great discussion.I do recall discussions related in some ways to the current DRM debacle.

Sure you can blow this off as a silly squabble over the game but if you look deep, you see its about freedom of choice when it comes to a product one spends their money on and the ability to use it as he sees fit and a company's greed because piracy argument is a cop out, something to think about.

[ME$$ENGER]

Originally Posted by Méo

But they can't take personal data from your computer, there is international law(s) that protect private life.

Should they cross that line, they would suffer severe consequences.

Well, put it this way. Suppose you buy a car and the dealer installs a device on the car that connects to some server every single time you want to start the engine to prevent the car being started by thieves. It's not taking your personal data, either. Would you agree to it?

To me, I don't want a car that goes ET phone home every time I want to drive it. What if the party in question goes out of business? What if I'm in some remote corner of the world? What if it malfunctions? One result: I'm left stranded somewhere unable to start my damned car!

And in the above example, the device is actually meant to protect my property. In the case of DRM, what does it protect? I know it does nothing good for those that pay.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by ME$$ENGER

Well, put it this way. Suppose you buy a car and the dealer installs a device on the car that connects to some server every single time you want to start the engine to prevent the car being started by thieves. It's not taking your personal data, either. Would you agree to it?

Dude, driving a car and be able to reach certain places (your home, the hospital, etc.) is LOT MORE important than playing a game, of course it would be unacceptable, the consequences could be much more dramatic!

[ME$$ENGER]

Originally Posted by Méo

Dude, driving a car and be able to reach certain places (your home, the hospital, etc.) is LOT MORE important than playing a game, of course it would be unacceptable, the consequences could be much more dramatic!

Point is not if playing games is more important than driving a car. Point is it's a bad design. Agreed?

[Rosencrantz]

Well, to be honest, I have already told my girl that this forum just did go mad couple days ago. And as I have dealt with corpses almost every day last 17 years, I'm pretty sure she found out news from the forum both funny and more entertaining than if I just told her something else about my day...

And this wasn't a joke. Death losts its drama after it becomes to your everyday life.


-RC-

[Eightbit]

of course I would. People need to know what they are getting with things. Drm is a pretty big deal when your buying a product. Especially when you get slammed with no options for returning the product etc.

As for drama well I hate to beat on the suicide issue but really. Someone is always worse off and has experienced worse. Its not a competition and some things may seem trivial now but that doesn't mean they should be expelled from criticism or other discussion.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Méo

[B]Seriously, would you dare to speak about DRM (and how much it's a drama for you) in plublic, I mean... with your girlfriend, your friends, your teammate at work, your family, etc.

Yeah, id say something like.

"Hey man, wanna hear some bull? Games by this Publisher made it so you have to be online to play a f*king single player game, and it won't work without a constant internet connection. Like it's an MMO or some such crap. I'll bet they start charging monthy fee's next."

Thats exactly what id say in real life. It's not far fetched.

[JU_88]

No
number 1, most would tell me to get a life .
number 2 DRM is not that big a drama for me anyway.

[Highbury]

All of my friends, and my wife, are gamers. Some of them fans of the SH series. I have talked about this sitting in a group with them...