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[Penguin]

Originally Posted by MH

Now what GB said about the camp is very nasty hideous thing but face the fact trying to shape youth political mindset since young age is indoctrination.
GB should know something about it.
I'm all for democratic education but no political parties thought shaping because i believe that this handicaps ability for flexible thought.
It turns problems into ideological issues when one side will not accept the others view just because of ideology.

It's not uncommon in Europe for kids to be in camps of organizations - at least it was in my generation. When I check out the European young socialists where the party of the Norwegian kids are a member, you'll see that there are also two Israeli Youth Organizations associated.
I believe most organizations require the approval of the parents, so I see no difference if parents or an organization politicizes them, as long as those parties stand on the grounds of democracy.
However of course parents should teach kids to think independently, but we know that's wishful thinking.

I have many friends who were with the Falken - they are somehow associated with Noar Oved from your country. None of them became a party member as an adult. They became very non-dogmatic persons - but still have their heart on the left side
I was in many church camps, but became an agnostic .

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

The hypocrisy is nauseating.

Yep, somehow it is ok to him when they are sent to christian fundamentalist summer camps...

Originally Posted by Dan D

Who is this guy anyway?

In the 1960s a dark experiment took place in the USA: someone created a hybrid from Goebbels' sperm and female eggs from a tv-preacher. Good old Glenn was the result.

To be fair, at least he is consequent in showing compassion:

"I don't hate all of them. Probably about 10 of them. And when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I'm just like, "Oh shut up!" I'm so sick of them because they're always complaining. "

(source: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200509090003)