bomb in oslo

[Gorduz]

He will spend the rest of his life in prison(or equivalent) most likely. He will get 21 years + indefinite involuntary commitment. This means that after serving 21 years he will be kept locked inside until he is deemed fit to return to society (which could be never).

edit: Now it seems he might be prosecuted for crime against humanity(Trying to exterminate people based on their political opinions) which can give him 30 years in Norway.

[Gorduz]

Apparently people have been provoked by FOXs coverage of the event. They kept on calling it islamic terror long even after it became apparent that it might be other political forces behind it instead. And when finally it was clear that Anders Brehde Breivik had committed the act they stopped broadcasting about it.

http://translate.google.com/translat...cle4183971.ece

[andritsos]

Originally Posted by Penguin

I presume you are German? It's not uncommon here, too. The Jusos (young socialdemocrats) here also have 14 years as minimum age, same with the Junge Union (young conservatives). Remember, it's also the age where you get the right to choose your own religion, so I see no problem with choosing a political direction at this age.



A Norwegian might answer this probably better than me, however I think you mean "Sicherheitsverwahrung" - I think the English term is a little misleading here. The Norway law has this also, called Forvaring: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forvaring. The 21 year limit also seems to apply here, however wiki states that a judge might extend the prison term for 5 more years.

actually i am from italy
But i can say that the age of when a person is able to freely choose ( and confront ) a political belief varies from place to place , person to person etc

In the end it seem that victims weren't 90 or so,but 74. Even one is intollerable. was impressed by the thousands ( 100K+) people in the streets to express their compassion

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Karle94

I think it`s very unfortunate that the max punishment is 21-26 years in prison. Anders should at least rot in a prison cell for the rest of his life. Many here in Norway think he should be executed, but that`s against Norwegian law. Personally I think he should face the same punishment as Vidkun Quisling in may, 1945. Execution by firing squad.

I should imagine a great many of your people feel that way.

[krashkart]

Originally Posted by Gorduz

Apparently people have been provoked by FOXs coverage of the event. They kept on calling it islamic terror long even after it became apparent that it might be other political forces behind it instead. And when finally it was clear that Anders Brehde Breivik had committed the act they stopped broadcasting about it.

http://translate.google.com/translat...cle4183971.ece

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. But, that pretty much sums up some of the media culture over here. Shock and horror, blame Islamic terrorists. Rinse and repeat. I doubt that anyone at Fox bothers to do their homework before going live with a story.




Aw, what the heck....

All better now.

[Safe-Keeper]

I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.

It gets worse. Glenn Beck just compared the youth politicians and their gathering to the Hitler Youth.

Because, you know, they're teens and politically active? Like the Hitler Youth? See?

Me neither.

[Hottentot]

That's not nearly as fun as the "Putin Jugend". Oh, how I envy the juggler of words, the magician of sentence, the wizard of wit who invented that immortal pearl of humor.

[Karle94]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I should imagine a great many of your people feel that way.

I think this article pretty much sums it up: http://translate.google.no/translate...080765&act=url

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Gorduz

Apparently people have been provoked by FOXs coverage of the event. They kept on calling it islamic terror long even after it became apparent that it might be other political forces behind it instead. And when finally it was clear that Anders Brehde Breivik had committed the act they stopped broadcasting about it.

http://translate.google.com/translat...cle4183971.ece

I would never ever have the idea to use fox as a news source for anything that happens in Europe, hell, not even for anything that happens outside their studios.
In Germany, the major news sources did a crappy job, even when regarding that the news were confusing and contradicting. The German "24h news channels" preferred to show old documentations the whole day...
I relied on aftenposten and tv2 - they did a pretty good job, no hasty speculations and quick updates when stuff was reported wrong - which is unavoidable.

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

It gets worse. Glenn Beck just compared the youth politicians and their gathering to the Hitler Youth.

Because, you know, they're teens and politically active? Like the Hitler Youth? See?

Me neither.

I did not know that American teenagers are forbidden to participate in political activities, thanks to Beck's eternal wisdom we now know.
I would love to arrange a meeting of this dritthead with the relatives of the people who were on Utøya ...

[Betonov]

At least our media did something right. They waited until it was official. There was no talk of islamic terror.

It gets worse. Glenn Beck just compared the youth politicians and their gathering to the Hitler Youth.

Because, you know, they're teens and politically active? Like the Hitler Youth? See?

so he will have a big problem with GOPyoungguns and youth councildemocrats then.

[Hottentot]

Having read the news, I can't say I envy Breivik's lawyer, Lippestad. So he has to* defend a massmurderer and act as his public voice for the media and the people. Gee, what could be easier?

*)As I've understood it, Breivik himself requested Lippestad to defend him and he was obliged to do so. At least today, according to Finnish news, he has stated that he doesn't understand why Breivik chose him. Doesn't sound like a volunteer.

[Dan D]

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

It gets worse. Glenn Beck just compared the youth politicians and their gathering to the Hitler Youth.

Because, you know, they're teens and politically active? Like the Hitler Youth? See?

Me neither.

"Glenn Beck is Satan's mentally retarded little brother" (Stephen King). He,he.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Hottentot

Having read the news, I can't say I envy Breivik's lawyer, Lippestad. So he has to* defend a massmurderer and act as his public voice for the media and the people. Gee, what could be easier?

*)As I've understood it, Breivik himself requested Lippestad to defend him and he was obliged to do so. At least today, according to Finnish news, he has stated that he doesn't understand why Breivik chose him. Doesn't sound like a volunteer.

So is an accused allow to pick their defence lawyer and does said defence lawyer not have the right to refuse?

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

So is an accused allow to pick their defence lawyer and does said defence lawyer not have the right to refuse?

What I heard he agreed to take the case, but after spending some time thinking about it. He said something along the lines "It's a most unusual case, and he has already admitted his guilt, but it's an important democratic right for every man or woman to have a defense lawyer". True ofcourse, but I'm sure he secretly loath his defense subject to the bone.

Regarding why he chose him, I read that they "worked in the same building once". I am not sure what this meant.