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Old 11-15-12, 09:46 AM   #10
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The thing that I think gets to me the most is that you have a country, the United States of America, that has done so much with itself as a nation united under a common cause, the freedom and liberty of man. People complain about the gap between the rich and the poor, or about government intervention, or a welfare state, but honestly America has never had it so good. If you were to go back, three hundred, two hundred, even a hundred years ago, or back to the 1930s, the average person of America could only dream about the sort of things that the average American has now, welfare state or not. So many people have sacrificed their lives for a nation built up of differing ideas, of differing identities, that the idea of tearing that all down just because people don't like who won the election or their ideas for the future of the nation, it boggles my mind.
America has done so much because it's United, the only thing it managed to achieve whilst not united was to get 3% of its population killed.
in response i will just say that there can come a point in time when a split in ideology will contribute to a nations crumble. In this case the US has been 50-50 on the issues for a long long time.

so i refer you to one simple phrase

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

in this case of secession, the outcome of the election is not the chief issue, perhaps it is one of many?

as i pointed out in prior posts, the widening deficet, the crippling debt which will never be recovered from - ever. the ever increasing size and power of the federal government. the list goes on... personally i think most if not all of the gripes the states have are legitimate.
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