All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[Jaeger]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But most of the people you describe have never heard of Subsim, so they don't count as far these discussions are concerned.

You might have a more valid argument if the OP had titled this the "SH5 As-is (DRM included) Cheerleading Thread" and politely asked everyone who felt otherwise to not post, but calling everyone who disagrees "whiners" and demanding that they stop posting in the SH5 forums altogether was a certain invitation for a knock-down drag-out brawl.

yeah, you're right here. the chosen words were not a good choice.

but i have problems with your first argument: we cant discuss the topic ignoring the non subsimmers. they are the main group which will show us, if drm is accepted or not, if sh5 will be a failure or not. we can fight against drm, but we have to accept when drm wont be a non-buy-argument for the majority, including me. lots of people blame ubi, but if the main group dont hate drm, ubi was right.