In Border States, BATFE Asks: "May We See Your Guns?"

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

A warrant should not be a mandatory requirement for that kind of situation

what exactly do you think the situation is?

they knocked on the door... asked to see firearms - owner said no - they got pushy and threatened him with legal actions.

no - thats not how it works.

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

But in regards to good and upstanding citizens with no criminal background (as of then), I think the standard warrant laws we're using right now should be kept.

those "good and upstanding citizens" are specifically the people being targeted. - did you even read the article?

i stick to my guns here... if the cops knocked on my door without a warrant and i have done nothing wrong (or hell - even if i had) and they wanted to see anything in my house - out of sheer curiosity - i would tell them to take a piss - its that simple.

what the ATF is doing here is wrong. period. - sure they can come and knock and ask nicely to see my guns... of course i will say "no" - but because i answer "no" doesnt mean they should resort to bullying and threatening.

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I have no trouble doing it. But then again, I'm only one person with nothing to hide.

i myself have absolutely nothing to hide, however i am far right - anti big government and these clowns would get no respect from me or cooperation if they cannot follow simple due process that they might learn in YEAR ONE of their law enforcement classes.

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

If you think asking for information about guns in this kind of manner is an authoritarian thing to do

I do think that. these ATF bums are supposedly professional law enforcement officers - and to threaten innocent individuals with some sort of completely made up action against the individual if they dont cooperate is BS, its bullying and it is completely authoritarian.

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

I'm lucky to be living under these kinds of laws (I could be a lot worse off right now), and so are you, quite frankly. As I result, I'm not going to complain. But if you want to that's your right. Just my two cents.

what are you talking about?

im not complaining about the laws - im complaining about the Law Enforcement Officers complete and utter disregard for due process.

i know it could be a lot worse... and my home FULL of firearms is the only thing which keeps it from being "a lot worse".

when the left half of this nation kills all religion and prys my gun from my cold dead hands - they can do whatever the "F" they want.

until then i intend to hold on very tightly to both