Interesting times

[TDK1044]

The recent presidential election was fascinating to watch. Obviously, the normal Republican and Democratic economic perspectives were front and center, and all of the usual issues were addressed. Hard core Republicans see Obama as a dangerous socialist, and hard core Democrats see him as a man of the people.

Something else happened in this election though. Not since JFK was elected in 1960, have we seen a tangible belief within many Americans that a real change of direction is possible. The very genuine emotions expressed by many African Americans on election night was a humbling experience to observe.

To some people, Obama is the nearest thing to God on earth. To others he's a dangerous enigma. But one thing is certain, he's a different kind of politician.

A part of me worries about his 'spread the wealth' approach. That part of me asks "what is the point of me working really hard and being an achiever, if someone is going to take a heavy percentage of my earnings and give it to people who are not as motivated or as hard working as me?

There's another part of me though that asks "if this man can level the playing field a little, and create opportunity for people who would not have believed that such an opportunity was open to them, then isn't that what America is all about?"

I want to see what President Obama achieves over the next four years. He has a healthy majority in Congress and the Senate, so there's no room for excuses. If he learns from the disastrous first term of Bill Clinton, then he may actually surprise some of his opponents.

Time will tell.

[AVGWarhawk]

Put simply, he was not my choice. However, he is not my President and representative of me across the world. He gets my full support even though I do not agree with some of his policies he pushed. Obama will be so engrossed with thousands of things that getting any handle on them will be very tough. He will find out he can not do it all by himself. We hope he selects his cabinet carefully and most of all, cleans up corruption on Capitol Hill. He needs to persecute the execs of the Wall Street firms and a congressional hearing on those involved with Freddie and Fanny...specifically Barney Frank. Sorry, America is pissed with the bailout. If he lets this slide, I do not see him as a good steward of the tax payers money. He needs to fix us domestically the look globally. He is but one person as George Bush is so I give him the time to sort it out.

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He needs to persecute the execs of the Wall Street firms

by all means do persecute those *******ers, and might as well prosecute them too while he's at it!

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He needs to persecute the execs of the Wall Street firms and a congressional hearing on those involved with Freddie and Fanny...specifically Barney Frank.

That's going to be a difficult task since 3 former execs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were on his campaign committee and one is his chief of staff.

I wish him the best in cleaning up Washington, but still remain skeptical that we're not looking at at least 4 more years of the same old, same old with a new face.

Most of all, I hope for a better America and that our government will finally put the country first and themselves last.

[longam]

Now the major auto companies are running around with their hand out, this is going to get ugly real quick.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Digital_Trucker

That's going to be a difficult task since 3 former execs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were on his campaign committee and one is his chief of staff.

I wish him the best in cleaning up Washington, but still remain skeptical that we're not looking at at least 4 more years of the same old, same old with a new face.

Most of all, I hope for a better America and that our government will finally put the country first and themselves last.

Exacly TD. If it is 'change'... time to start changing with those he has pressed into service but were part of the failure with the mortgage industry. It ain't gonna happen Welcome to same ol same ol.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by castorp345

by all means do persecute those *******ers, and might as well prosecute them too while he's at it!

Sorry cast...that is what I ment

[castorp345]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Sorry cast...that is what I ment

no apologies!
i'm quite in favor of putting those bastages in solitary with nothing but barry manilow on endless repeat for company...

[SteamWake]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

That part of me asks "what is the point of me working really hard and being an achiever, if someone is going to take a heavy percentage of my earnings and give it to people who are not as motivated or as hard working as me?

There you go in one sentance, Socialisim and why it doesent work.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by castorp345

no apologies!
i'm quite in favor of putting those bastages in solitary with nothing but barry manilow on endless repeat for company...

I even think Barry Manilow is too good for these cretins. People have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars and these aholes are still working in DC. Please please please tell me there was no collusion between Barney Frank and the man he was dating on the board to Fanny Mae. Come on, it is so obvious that Barney is just the tip of the iceberg concerning this issue.

[SteamWake]

Cough cough "Hedge Funds"

[DeepIron]

I even think Barry Manilow is too good for these cretins.

Ouch! How's about Steisand then? She's ok... right?


Point is, it would take YEARS to bring these as*holes to any kind of justice. As much as I want to see the appropriate people prosecuted (remember ENRON, took years), it would be a tremendous waste of time right now, IMO. We need to fix the problem, not fix the blame. Time enough AFTER we get this country back on track. Besides, I'm sure that while we work to fix the problems, more than enough dirt will be found to help build cases against those who were criminally liable...

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by DeepIron

Ouch! How's about Steisand then? She's ok... right?


Point is, it would take YEARS to bring these as*holes to any kind of justice. As much as I want to see the appropriate people prosecuted, it would be a tremendous waste of time right now, IMO. We need to fix the problem, not fix the blame. Time enough AFTER we get this country back on track. Besides, I'm sure that while we work to fix the problems, more than enough dirt will be found to help build cases against those who were criminally liable...

IMO, it needs to start now. Selective amnesia is very catching in Washington. Most if not all people who are wronged want corrective action taken immediately. I believe this corrective action needs to start now before those involved start on something else to screw up.

I was thinking Jim Nabors instead of Manilow or Steisand.

[Koondawg]

You know Ive gotta post here...No I didn't vote as no=one deserved my vote...course I would have liked to see Palin, (TVPIWHF) for days and taken seconds...just to say I'd been there, and has anyone seen the Nailin Palin video?

So Ill leave this rant as my last post on the political BS posts which clouds the forums, even from across the pond, to give the man (Obama) a chance...as the Rep cantidate is throwing his running mate...Palin...under the bus. I mean common...he did choose her...
I do hear good things are already coming about...
1) The WhiteHhouse rose garden has now been turned into a watermelon patch
2) Couches are now present on the WhiteHouse porch...
3) The Statue of Liberty has been replaced by a huge figure of Aunt Ja'mima holding up a drumstick from KFC...
4) Cadi's will now be the choice of transportation...
5) Cotton fields will now be populated by white prisoners....

This is totaly a rant and not a belief...

Give the guy a chance...gas is cheaper now than I has ever seen it and the taxes..on sporting games, golf green fees...I'm all for it

KD

[DeepIron]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

IMO, it needs to start now. Selective amnesia is very catching in Washington. Most if not all people who are wronged want corrective action taken immediately. I believe this corrective action needs to start now before those involved start on something else to screw up.

I was thinking Jim Nabors instead of Manilow or Steisand.

Well... Nabors, then that's ok...

About prosecuting these guys, at this point in time, who can be trusted to do the job? I remember the "Scooter Libby" trial, found guilty in 4 out of 5 charges in March07 and Bush then pardons (commutes the 2 1/2 yr "excessive" sentence) for the guy in JULY07... Real justice, real people...

Obama is just in the process of putting together staff, there has already been rhetoric about the public investing trust in a couple of those guys....