Opinion! A Phony Hero for a Phony War - Page 3

Platapus · 11-19-12, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Too true.

For some reason, MacArthur strikes me as being douchey.

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Originally Posted by Karle94

Should`t Patton fit in there somewhere?

cf 1932 Bonus March

And you can throw Ike in there too.

Gerald · 11-19-12, 10:03 AM

Many mention Al Qaeda, in their terror speculation (among all others) and of course they are real, but the threats of terrorists, they grow like mushrooms, and terror cells and must be fought with long-term intelligence information throughout the world, so that all countries pursue the same target.

Jimbuna · 11-19-12, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

In my opinion, the worst military leader ever was Herman Goering.

If he hadn't been such a douche, he could've won the war. Instead, he ended up taking cyanide because he was too pussy to be hung.

Not even half as bad as Hitler.

Betonov · 11-19-12, 02:08 PM

Wasnt it with Patton, that he had the lowest casualtie rate of all the allied commanders ??

Jimbuna · 11-19-12, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Wasnt it with Patton, that he had the lowest casualtie rate of all the allied commanders ??

I'm not sure but Montgomery certainly dropped some clangers and must have quite a few to his name.

Stealhead · 11-19-12, 02:40 PM

Patton might have been a bit of a harsh man at times but he did lead from the front and most of the men under him respected him for this.True he did slap the two troops suffering from combat fatigue but he for what ever reason believed that they where malingerers at the time.

What he did not do is often ignored.The man responsible for the accident that Patton was in was intoxicated and could have been punished but Patton demanded that the man was not to be punished in anyway he did not want the man to receive a dishonorable discharge and negatively effect his life.

u crank · 11-19-12, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

The problem we have is that each terrorist has a family of innocent civilians who upon his death will want to avenge him and become yet more terrorists.

I believe this works both ways though. How many people have become terrorists because innocent members of their family were killed and they want revenge.

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The only logical solution is the eliminate The Cause that is the reason innocent civilians decide become terrorists in the first place or eliminate all innocent civilians before they become terrorists.

Yea logic sucks sometimes.

Oh yea it does.

August · 11-19-12, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Karle94

Should`t Patton fit in there somewhere?

Compare for yourself. George Patton in dress uniform:

General Petraeus

General Eisenhower

And just for comparison:

Field marshal Goering

Cybermat47 · 11-19-12, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Field marshal Goering

Look at the neck!

P.S. He wasn't a Field Marshal. He was promoted to Reichmarschall, second only to Oberkammando der Wehrmacht (Over-Commander [of] the Armed Forces) - Hitler.

Jimbuna · 11-20-12, 11:33 AM

here's me thinking he was simply an overweight madman

August · 11-20-12, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Look at the neck!

P.S. He wasn't a Field Marshal. He was promoted to Reichmarschall, second only to Oberkammando der Wehrmacht (Over-Commander [of] the Armed Forces) - Hitler.

Reichmarschall, Field Marshal, Doorman at the Ritz Carlton, whatever, he still wasn't as much of a peacock as Petraeus.

If it were up to me I would limit ribbons to three rows, qualification badges to two only.

Betonov · 11-20-12, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by August

If it were up to me I would limit ribbons to three rows, qualification badges to two only.

But weren't those ribbons earned

Oberon · 11-20-12, 12:32 PM

Someone's hard-drive needs defragging...

Still, can't beat the Soviets for medal collections:

Zhukov, who never managed to get through airport security unscathed.

Earned, though, no doubt about that.

August · 11-20-12, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

But weren't those ribbons earned

Sure they are, but that doesn't mean they have to wear every single one they ever received, some, like the national defense ribbon for just being in the military.

August · 11-20-12, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Earned, though, no doubt about that.

I'm sure they were although wearing the actual medal instead of the ribbon is only for special occasions. This is how he would have normally have dressed.

Now note that many of Zukov's medals are duplicates. In our army subsequent awards are identified by a oak leaf cluster pin or similar indication on the medal or ribbon itself. If we wore our awards like the Soviets did then Petraeus would have so many ribbons you wouldn't be able to tell what color his uniform was.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with a General having a lot of medals, just with displaying all of them all the time. It makes them look cheap and showy (imo).

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Patton might have been a bit of a harsh man at times but he did lead from the front and most of the men under him respected him for this.True he did slap the two troops suffering from combat fatigue but he for what ever reason believed that they where malingerers at the time. What he did not do is often ignored.The man responsible for the accident that Patton was in was intoxicated and could have been punished but Patton demanded that the man was not to be punished in anyway he did not want the man to receive a dishonorable discharge and negatively effect his life.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Someone's hard-drive needs defragging... Still, can't beat the Soviets for medal collections: Zhukov, who never managed to get through airport security unscathed. Earned, though, no doubt about that.