You think Frau can handle this man? Katana with katana?

[frau kaleun]

yeah, why is anybody hiding behind me?

a fine howdy-do that would be. i'm a lay-dee! a delicate flower even.





i'll be the quiet one in the corner, taking notes.

[Dowly]

*hides behind FK*

mmmm....



What? You had to see that coming?!

Don't hurt me! Surrender and and all that stuff!

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Dowly

*hides behind FK*

mmmm....



What? You had to see that coming?!

Don't hurt me! Surrender and and all that stuff!

Well, at least you're not making a big show of trying to protect my honor. Because nobody would buy that for a second.

[Castout]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Oh and I would prolly hand over my wallet to an armed attacker as well if that was all s/he wanted. Not worth anyone getting hurt over. Especially me.

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

... lets see, we got as members of Subsim:

...former Paras...
...retired Marines...
...ex Recon Infantry...
...Combat Engineers...
...a wide selection of sailors and airman...

... I say you last five seconds...

Don't forget all the crazies from GT.. like me

[Skybird]

No doubt, the technical skill is impressive, and in no way I would ever claim to have been even close to that performance level. Compared to that display of choreography and skill, I was just a dilletant. But I simply reject an opinion that shows and sensationalism like this are what a warrior's arts are about. It is about lethal skill in real fighting, and character-education, both goes hand in hand. Neither me nor my mentor and trainer were able or even willing to bring this into cooperation with shows and tournaments and ordinary sports-as-a-hobby attitude. I for myself never did it for sports. And for my teacher, it was a way to form an honourable basic attitude to live by while transitting through this life. And I honestly think that this is what it is about: skill in real combat, and basic living attitude. Not shows, tournaments, and boasting with one's competitiveness.

And I am certain that there are some people in the world who live in the hidden and of whom we will never learn that they existed and who are happy not to ever stand in the spotlight, who would smoke this guy in their pipe, if they would clash. Not that they would ever actively search for such a meeting.

Or as Worf once put it in one episode: "The real warrior knows the important battles are those within himself, this is where he must prove himself." Added for pathetic effect to some TV series, yes - but true.

[Rhodes]

Kaaaameeeeeeee HAAAAAAAMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Oh and I would prolly hand over my wallet to an armed attacker as well if that was all s/he wanted. Not worth anyone getting hurt over. Especially me.

I once saw an interview with Jean-Claude Van Damme. The reporter asked him what he would do if someone in real life if someone pulled a gun on him and demanded his money.

To his credit, Van Damme answered "Give him my wallet and hope he didn't hurt me!"

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No doubt, the technical skill is impressive, and in no way I would ever claim to have been even close to that performance level. Compared to that display of choreography and skill, I was just a dilletant. But I simply reject an opinion that shows and sensationalism like this are what a warrior's arts are about. It is about lethal skill in real fighting, and character-education, both goes hand in hand. Neither me nor my mentor and trainer were able or even willing to bring this into cooperation with shows and tournaments and ordinary sports-as-a-hobby attitude. I for myself never did it for sports. And for my teacher, it was a way to form an honourable basic attitude to live by while transitting through this life. And I honestly think that this is what it is about: skill in real combat, and basic living attitude. Not shows, tournaments, and boasting with one's competitiveness.

And I am certain that there are some people in the world who live in the hidden and of whom we will never learn that they existed and who are happy not to ever stand in the spotlight, who would smoke this guy in their pipe, if they would clash. Not that they would ever actively search for such a meeting.

Or as Worf once put it in one episode: "The real warrior knows the important battles are those within himself, this is where he must prove himself." Added for pathetic effect to some TV series, yes - but true.

Bonus points for quoting Worf.

We have had a couple higher-ranking people from our dojo who have performed in competition because they wanted to on their own - as far as I know, only doing kata. Yes, sensei helped them practice and fine tune their skills - but we aren't trained for competition, we don't compete as a school, it is something that is never mentioned much less put forward as a goal or encouraged as some way to gain prestige or "prove" oneself. Sensei has actually discouraged parents of some kids who thought throwing them into tournaments would be a good way to "build their self-esteem" (after a few months of lessons, right, having your kid get his butt handed to him in front of a crowd of strangers will just do wonders for his confidence) and he has lost students because of his refusal to get on board with that kind of thing.

Anyway, most of what we're taught is illegal in competition and would just get us thrown out.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I once saw an interview with Jean-Claude Van Damme. The reporter asked him what he would do if someone in real life if someone pulled a gun on him and demanded his money.

To his credit, Van Damme answered "Give him my wallet and hope he didn't hurt me!"

IF learning kung fu for the self defense then in this modern day its probably a waste of time. If your learning it for mastery of the mind, disipline, strength just all round well being then this sport will help you in life which im sure frau learns this sport for that reason.

Other than that I can't see what is the point people wanting to learn if for self defense when all you need is a gun or your trusty baseball bat. The Indiana Jones scene comes to mind where the arab sword weilding geek goes all nuts so indiana pulls out his gun and shoots him dead. No sword weilding stick fighting or round house kick is faster than a speeding bullet. Besides crims these days would shoot you dead before you got within 20feet of them.

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

IF learning kung fu for the self defense then in this modern day its probably a waste of time. If your learning it for mastery of the mind, disipline, strength just all round well being then this sport will help you in life which im sure frau learns this sport for that reason.

Other than that I can't see what is the point people wanting to learn if for self defense when all you need is a gun or your trusty baseball bat. The Indiana Jones scene comes to mind where the arab sword weilding geek goes all nuts so indiana pulls out his gun and shoots him dead. No sword weilding stick fighting or round house kick is faster than a speeding bullet. Besides crims these days would shoot you dead before you got within 20feet of them.

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

Not every act of attempted physical assault involves a weapon, in fact I would hazard a guess that most do not, particularly those that are not premeditated.

And just to be picky and clarify - I am not training in or for a sport - what I'm taught is considered a martial art in the strictest sense of the phrase: a war art. It is taught that way by my instructor and that is certainly my approach to it (although others may take it up for a variety of reasons).

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Not every act of attempted physical assault involves a weapon, in fact I would hazard a guess that most do not, particularly those that are not premeditated.

Well theres always a kick to the nuts, im not being funny a kick to the goonads will drop any man no matter how big he is, and it gives the victim time to run away or put the boot in and then run away. When fighting how many street fighters or just plain thugs do you see protecting their private parts. None. They're always protecting their pretty faces. A firm power Kick in the nuts preferably with steel cap boots will drop him!

And just to be picky and clarify - I am not training in or for a sport - what I'm taught is considered a martial art in the strictest sense of the phrase: a war art. It is taught that way by my instructor and that is certainly my approach to it

Okay so your doing it for reasons as in War art I don't understand but I'm presuming you want to learn how it was back then and all the discipline that comes with it? Fare enough.

[TLAM Strike]

I think FK and some others might be interested in this:

Combatives FM 3-25.150

Quite sure some others around here already are familiar with this (or its equivalent) already.

[Jimbuna]

Seen and been in a few fights in my time (got the runners up medals to prove it)...the one's that worried me were those performed/carried out by a practiced street fighter.

Plus I love this oldie

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

Get real

Chuck Norris would simply glare at the gun. The gunpower would then spontaneously change chemical form to render it noncombustible.