You think Frau can handle this man? Katana with katana?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Oh and I would prolly hand over my wallet to an armed attacker as well if that was all s/he wanted. Not worth anyone getting hurt over. Especially me.

I once saw an interview with Jean-Claude Van Damme. The reporter asked him what he would do if someone in real life if someone pulled a gun on him and demanded his money.

To his credit, Van Damme answered "Give him my wallet and hope he didn't hurt me!"

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I once saw an interview with Jean-Claude Van Damme. The reporter asked him what he would do if someone in real life if someone pulled a gun on him and demanded his money.

To his credit, Van Damme answered "Give him my wallet and hope he didn't hurt me!"

IF learning kung fu for the self defense then in this modern day its probably a waste of time. If your learning it for mastery of the mind, disipline, strength just all round well being then this sport will help you in life which im sure frau learns this sport for that reason.

Other than that I can't see what is the point people wanting to learn if for self defense when all you need is a gun or your trusty baseball bat. The Indiana Jones scene comes to mind where the arab sword weilding geek goes all nuts so indiana pulls out his gun and shoots him dead. No sword weilding stick fighting or round house kick is faster than a speeding bullet. Besides crims these days would shoot you dead before you got within 20feet of them.

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

IF learning kung fu for the self defense then in this modern day its probably a waste of time. If your learning it for mastery of the mind, disipline, strength just all round well being then this sport will help you in life which im sure frau learns this sport for that reason.

Other than that I can't see what is the point people wanting to learn if for self defense when all you need is a gun or your trusty baseball bat. The Indiana Jones scene comes to mind where the arab sword weilding geek goes all nuts so indiana pulls out his gun and shoots him dead. No sword weilding stick fighting or round house kick is faster than a speeding bullet. Besides crims these days would shoot you dead before you got within 20feet of them.

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

Not every act of attempted physical assault involves a weapon, in fact I would hazard a guess that most do not, particularly those that are not premeditated.

And just to be picky and clarify - I am not training in or for a sport - what I'm taught is considered a martial art in the strictest sense of the phrase: a war art. It is taught that way by my instructor and that is certainly my approach to it (although others may take it up for a variety of reasons).

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Not every act of attempted physical assault involves a weapon, in fact I would hazard a guess that most do not, particularly those that are not premeditated.

Well theres always a kick to the nuts, im not being funny a kick to the goonads will drop any man no matter how big he is, and it gives the victim time to run away or put the boot in and then run away. When fighting how many street fighters or just plain thugs do you see protecting their private parts. None. They're always protecting their pretty faces. A firm power Kick in the nuts preferably with steel cap boots will drop him!

And just to be picky and clarify - I am not training in or for a sport - what I'm taught is considered a martial art in the strictest sense of the phrase: a war art. It is taught that way by my instructor and that is certainly my approach to it

Okay so your doing it for reasons as in War art I don't understand but I'm presuming you want to learn how it was back then and all the discipline that comes with it? Fare enough.

[TLAM Strike]

I think FK and some others might be interested in this:

Combatives FM 3-25.150

Quite sure some others around here already are familiar with this (or its equivalent) already.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I think FK and some others might be interested in this:

Combatives FM 3-25.150

Quite sure some others around here already are familiar with this (or its equivalent) already.

Bookmarked for future reference. Danke!

I still remember my dad showing me some of the hand-to-hand stuff he learned in the army. The one I recall most vividly was the one he emphasized, probably because it was something anybody, including me, could do fairly easily - the hard open-palm strike straight to the face, preferably the nose.

It was also one of the first strikes I learned when I took up martial arts, and it's still one of my favorites... altho I'll probably always prefer jamming my elbow in there if at all possible.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Well theres always a kick to the nuts, im not being funny a kick to the goonads will drop any man no matter how big he is, and it gives the victim time to run away or put the boot in and then run away. When fighting how many street fighters or just plain thugs do you see protecting their private parts. None. They're always protecting their pretty faces. A firm power Kick in the nuts preferably with steel cap boots will drop him!

A low, hard kick is always good. Difficult to see coming if someone is concentrating on defending the face and upper body. The knee is also a great target, whether you bust it or just buckle it enough to drop your opponent.

Okay so your doing it for reasons as in War art I don't understand but I'm presuming you want to learn how it was back then and all the discipline that comes with it? Fare enough.

Nope, wasn't referring to learning how it "was back then" - just that we are trained for combat, not competition. What we're taught is taught as something to be used for defense of self and others, whenever and wherever hand-to-hand fighting is necessary for that purpose. Not as ways to earn points in a tournament. We're taught to fight as "dirty" as need be to defend our lives and bodies from harm... nothing sporting about it.

[antikristuseke]

Fighting fair is all well and good, but I am going to gouge an eye out in a serious fight if the oportunity presents itself. If hte situation is serious the best kind of fight you can have is one that is over quickly.

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Nope, wasn't referring to learning how it "was back then" - just that we are trained for combat, not competition. What we're taught is taught as something to be used for defense of self and others, whenever and wherever hand-to-hand fighting is necessary for that purpose. Not as ways to earn points in a tournament. We're taught to fight as "dirty" as need be to defend our lives and bodies from harm... nothing sporting about it.

Kinda sounds like a Blood sport.

[yubba]

God created man, Samuale Colt made them = I don't care how bad you think you are, if you are stareing down a barrel of a 45 hope you have some extra underware.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

thou there is one exception. Chuck Norris would probably catch the bullet & throw it back killing the bad guy instantly!

Get real

Chuck Norris would simply glare at the gun. The gunpower would then spontaneously change chemical form to render it noncombustible.