You think Frau can handle this man? Katana with katana?

Castout · 11-26-10, 08:47 PM

Or is that just some fancy move for display without much use in real close combat against a katana master?

What do you think Frau?

Pretty mean guy to me

..I'd hand over my wallet if he came to me with a katana in hand no question asked.

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:07 PM

Yeah, I've seen that clip before... I think I may even have the DVD of the show it was taken from.

Dude is clearly far more experienced, skilled, and comfortable handling a katana than I am, c'mon, I've done ONE fairly simple kata. And I don't work with a real blade, but a wooden practice sword.

That said, I have no idea if he's actually just really good at the kata or has actually trained in some style of traditional Japanese combat swordsmanship (and no, kendo as taught to win modern-day kendo tournaments doesn't count from what I've seen and heard). It's one thing to handle a weapon well in a choreographed performance and quite another to use it in a spontaneous confrontation with a similarly armed opponent.

Being able to perform well in a kata doesn't always translate into being able to hold one's own in a real fight. Case in point: I train with a guy who was a bartender for many years, during which time he made the acquaintance of a local martial arts instructor in another style. He got to know this guy well enough to have spent time watching him demonstrate his kata and techniques and in doing so the guy was consistently flawless and incredibly powerful. Truly a thing of beauty to behold. And yet this guy would come into the bar on a fairly regular basis and get into a fight with some random no-name and get his arse kicked every single time.

Dowly · 11-26-10, 09:09 PM

I was left out again.

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Castout

Pretty mean guy to me

..I'd hand over my wallet if he came to me with a katana in hand no question asked.

Oh and I would prolly hand over my wallet to an armed attacker as well if that was all s/he wanted. Not worth anyone getting hurt over. Especially me.

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I was left out again.

Do you train with swords? I didn't know.

I would like to but 1) I couldn't afford it and 2) the chances of finding someone hereabouts who actually teaches the katana exclusively and for real - not for scoring points in competition - are pretty much nil.

Dowly · 11-26-10, 09:14 PM

I have a sword!

the_tyrant · 11-26-10, 09:20 PM

Ill come to the next subsim meet dressed as a ninja
you guys would all cower behind frau at the sight of me.

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I have a sword!

There, there. Of course you do. And I'm sure you polish it daily.

Takeda Shingen · 11-26-10, 09:22 PM

While this is beautiful in it's choreography and clearly demonstrates his skill at handling a (possibly) sharpened blade, it is no indicator of actual fighting prowess. Many of his spins, flips and various swings are more aesthetic than practical, and would be of no value in combat. While the martial arts do place emphasis on aesthetics, it is only a mean, not an end. The man in the video has clearly spent a long period of time perfecting his kata, but it would appear that he has inverted the equation; something that many of my fellow martial artists have a tendancy to do.

the_tyrant · 11-26-10, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

There, there. Of course you do. And I'm sure you polish it daily.

its obviously an anti aircraft cannon. just look at its size

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Ill come to the next subsim meet dressed as a ninja
you guys would all cower behind frau at the sight of me.

Any ninja they can see is a ninja not worth hiding from.

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

While this is beautiful in it's choreography and clearly demonstrates his skill at handling a (possibly) sharpened blade, it is no indicator of actual fighting prowess. Many of his spins, flips and various swings are more aesthetic than practical, and would be of no value in combat. While the martial arts do place emphasis on aesthetics, it is only a mean, not an end.

Well said.

Dowly · 11-26-10, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frau kaleun

There, there. Of course you do. And I'm sure you polish it daily.

Gotta keep it in good shape, wouldn't you agree?

frau kaleun · 11-26-10, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Gotta keep it in good shape, wouldn't you agree?

Well, yes, but there's a difference between that and just wearing it down to a nub.

TLAM Strike · 11-26-10, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

Ill come to the next subsim meet dressed as a ninja
you guys would all cower behind frau at the sight of me.

... lets see, we got as members of Subsim:

...former Paras...
...retired Marines...
...ex Recon Infantry...
...Combat Engineers...
...a wide selection of sailors and airman...

... I say you last five seconds...

11-26-10, 08:47 PM	#1
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11-26-10, 09:07 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I've seen that clip before... I think I may even have the DVD of the show it was taken from. Dude is clearly far more experienced, skilled, and comfortable handling a katana than I am, c'mon, I've done ONE fairly simple kata. And I don't work with a real blade, but a wooden practice sword. That said, I have no idea if he's actually just really good at the kata or has actually trained in some style of traditional Japanese combat swordsmanship (and no, kendo as taught to win modern-day kendo tournaments doesn't count from what I've seen and heard). It's one thing to handle a weapon well in a choreographed performance and quite another to use it in a spontaneous confrontation with a similarly armed opponent. Being able to perform well in a kata doesn't always translate into being able to hold one's own in a real fight. Case in point: I train with a guy who was a bartender for many years, during which time he made the acquaintance of a local martial arts instructor in another style. He got to know this guy well enough to have spent time watching him demonstrate his kata and techniques and in doing so the guy was consistently flawless and incredibly powerful. Truly a thing of beauty to behold. And yet this guy would come into the bar on a fairly regular basis and get into a fight with some random no-name and get his arse kicked every single time.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I was left out again.

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I have a sword!

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the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Ill come to the next subsim meet dressed as a ninja you guys would all cower behind frau at the sight of me.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	While this is beautiful in it's choreography and clearly demonstrates his skill at handling a (possibly) sharpened blade, it is no indicator of actual fighting prowess. Many of his spins, flips and various swings are more aesthetic than practical, and would be of no value in combat. While the martial arts do place emphasis on aesthetics, it is only a mean, not an end. The man in the video has clearly spent a long period of time perfecting his kata, but it would appear that he has inverted the equation; something that many of my fellow martial artists have a tendancy to do.