Can't Dive Deep enough!

slupanter · 10-21-09, 03:29 PM

ASDIC is only usable above 300m so uboats would dive to 300m and long as the hull was good nic plus other boats upset ASDIC and warm water, cold water, fish, whales, sediment and the sea floor. But the glass and lose valves would pop and have to be tightened. plus DC only needs to be with in 40 - 50m and good night to your pressure hull unless your in shallows.
In GWX 3.1 or SH5 the depths need to be deeper for later subs

sorry upset got caught by Flower

GoldenRivet · 10-21-09, 03:44 PM

the depth capabilities of the U-boats in GWX are set to historical values.

SH3 Commander adjusts these values to a more randomized extent.

In reality, if a U-boat made 300 meters or deeper it was near the end for that crew anyhow.

U-48Kriegsmarine · 10-21-09, 04:03 PM

Believe U Me, if the real u-boaters could go to 300m, more than 25% of them would have come back, but they didn't! U-boats can't just dive to 300m to get below ASDIC, its just not possible, and I believe the game reflects this accurately.

Again, the casualty statistics show, If they could they would have, but they didn't because they can't.

Nice info though about the Whales, water and all that, I would love for a whale to just swim into the ping of a destroyer and save my skin!

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-21-09, 04:55 PM

The only true way to find out what can a non-damaged hull take, is actually doing it. But I don't think german skippers would just dive to 300m just to be sure it can take. It doesnt mean it can't. The only reports we have, are those from uboats that had flooding and went near 300m until they managed to start going up again.

I do believe that uboats with a inctact and perfect hull can reach 300m, yes. Just there's no how to prove it.

GoldenRivet · 10-21-09, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

The only true way to find out what can a non-damaged hull take, is actually doing it. But I don't think german skippers would just dive to 300m just to be sure it can take. It doesnt mean it can't. The only reports we have, are those from uboats that had flooding and went near 300m until they managed to start going up again.

I do believe that uboats with a inctact and perfect hull can reach 300m, yes. Just there's no how to prove it.

Correct.

and the guage stops at 250M

beyond that you are testing the unknown.

besides... i dont even think subs could really measure any depth below 250m

i mean you got to hand it to those Germans... we are talking about a U-boat design from the mid 1930's capable of diving to near 900 ft

i mean compare that to the US Subs... their "test depth" was nearly twice as much as the US Sub's test depths across the board.

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-21-09, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Correct.

and the guage stops at 250M

beyond that you are testing the unknown.

besides... i dont even think subs could really measure any depth below 250m

i mean you got to hand it to those Germans... we are talking about a U-boat design from the mid 1930's capable of diving to near 900 ft

i mean compare that to the US Subs... their "test depth" was nearly twice as much as the US Sub's test depths across the board.

With today's technology, subs should be going 1000m deep at 50kts no problem. Somehow they don't... but I believe that there must be an explanation for it... maybe the lack of necessity to go that deep?

tomfon · 10-22-09, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

The only true way to find out what can a non-damaged hull take, is actually doing it. But I don't think german skippers would just dive to 300m just to be sure it can take. It doesnt mean it can't. The only reports we have, are those from uboats that had flooding and went near 300m until they managed to start going up again.

I do believe that uboats with a inctact and perfect hull can reach 300m, yes. Just there's no how to prove it.

Heh, good point.

slupanter · 10-22-09, 03:59 AM

Type XXI could drive deep but it still doesnt sort out the warm and cold water and whales lol. type VII would be crushed over about 179FT but type XXI could just take it i never said it wouldn't be damaged I.E glass and joints. but in the type IXC - C2 they changed the pressure hull from steel to armour plate increase the displacement to about 1000.

10-21-09, 03:29 PM	#1
slupanter Mate Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: the sea Posts: 51 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Can't Dive Deep enough! ASDIC is only usable above 300m so uboats would dive to 300m and long as the hull was good nic plus other boats upset ASDIC and warm water, cold water, fish, whales, sediment and the sea floor. But the glass and lose valves would pop and have to be tightened. plus DC only needs to be with in 40 - 50m and good night to your pressure hull unless your in shallows. In GWX 3.1 or SH5 the depths need to be deeper for later subs sorry upset got caught by Flower __________________ Bring forth the Deliver U997, Little rusty but she'll do.

10-21-09, 03:44 PM	#2
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	the depth capabilities of the U-boats in GWX are set to historical values. SH3 Commander adjusts these values to a more randomized extent. In reality, if a U-boat made 300 meters or deeper it was near the end for that crew anyhow. __________________

10-21-09, 04:03 PM	#3
U-48Kriegsmarine Planesman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Far Far Down at the Bottom of the Sea Posts: 185 Downloads: 339 Uploads: 0	Believe U Me, if the real u-boaters could go to 300m, more than 25% of them would have come back, but they didn't! U-boats can't just dive to 300m to get below ASDIC, its just not possible, and I believe the game reflects this accurately. Again, the casualty statistics show, If they could they would have, but they didn't because they can't. Nice info though about the Whales, water and all that, I would love for a whale to just swim into the ping of a destroyer and save my skin! __________________ Stay Cool, its only a depth Charge

10-21-09, 04:55 PM	#4
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	The only true way to find out what can a non-damaged hull take, is actually doing it. But I don't think german skippers would just dive to 300m just to be sure it can take. It doesnt mean it can't. The only reports we have, are those from uboats that had flooding and went near 300m until they managed to start going up again. I do believe that uboats with a inctact and perfect hull can reach 300m, yes. Just there's no how to prove it. __________________ To each his own

10-22-09, 03:59 AM	#8
slupanter Mate Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: the sea Posts: 51 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Type XXI could drive deep but it still doesnt sort out the warm and cold water and whales lol. type VII would be crushed over about 179FT but type XXI could just take it i never said it wouldn't be damaged I.E glass and joints. but in the type IXC - C2 they changed the pressure hull from steel to armour plate increase the displacement to about 1000. __________________ Bring forth the Deliver U997, Little rusty but she'll do.