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Old 04-29-07, 07:14 AM   #1
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Default [REL] Better Scopes 1.2

This is a continuation of the work of Captain Cox detailed here.

UPDATE:

Version 1.2




- changed the color of the lines to a dark green as per request
- refined some of the lines a bit


From the Readme:

This mod aims to improve the overall appearance of the periscope views in Silent Hunter 4. It does this by using historically accurate markings, adding a layer of dirt and scratches to the lens, reducing the opacity of the attack scope, resizing the scopes and adding a more readable and appealing heading scale.


Source Drawings from Submarine Periscope Manual:


Let me know what you think

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Old 04-29-07, 07:15 AM   #2
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Nice work

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Old 04-29-07, 07:30 AM   #3
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Bloody brilliant man, but you knew that already :p this will be in my JSGME "always use" folder

And have to say, very nice team effort from all sides on this one.

But hey "l3th4l" you forgot
MADE BY l3th4l!!!!

Will check back on that zoom stuff when i have a min (free till Wednesday, thank god for Socialism :p )
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Old 04-29-07, 07:42 AM   #4
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Thats Just about perfect id say
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Old 04-29-07, 08:55 AM   #5
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wonderful and beautiful!!
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Old 04-29-07, 09:15 AM   #6
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Great job!
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Old 04-29-07, 01:09 PM   #7
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Source Drawings from Submarine Periscope Manual:



Your mod does not have a vertical line at a obs/periscope.
Is it bug?

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Old 04-29-07, 03:11 PM   #8
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Your mod does not have a vertical line at a obs/periscope. Is it bug?
mhh.. no. it's on purpose. but now that you say that...

the source images above are straight from Captain Cox's thread but when i made the textures i looked directly at the periscope manual for reference... could have sworn there was an image without that vertical line...

tbh. for some reason i rather like it without that line; makes it look clean. but lets get a general consensus here: do people want that line to be present or do they prefer it the way it is?

To change that is pretty easy so that shouldn't be a concern.

edit: one more comment about this: as the picture in the persicope manual is depicting the attack scope while zoomed out and not the observation scope, it comes down to personal preference on this matter as we currently simply do not know what the observation scope actually looks like (of course i'd be more than happy if somebody proves me wrong here and provides us with accurate information about the obs scope).
seems like i have missed that line btw.; I couldn't find a picture without it
but as i've said, if people prefer it to be there i'll add it.

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Old 04-29-07, 03:40 PM   #9
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Yeah the observation scope needs a verticle line because...

You can't accurately tell the bearing without a line through the compass bar... making it too much of a guess job when plotting.. so you are forced to use only the attack scope.
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Old 04-29-07, 04:26 PM   #10
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New version out - first post has been updated.
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Old 04-29-07, 07:06 PM   #11
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Awesome mod l3th4l, this is such a great mod. And big thanks to Kataki for this brilliant idea.
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Old 05-17-07, 03:33 AM   #12
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good work mate.
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Old 05-20-07, 01:28 AM   #13
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Hey L3th4l

I have used your Better Scope mod for some time now - and its simply wunderfull. Moreover I have changed my Cameras.dat file to accomodate your periscope image so it fits in size in high power with the correct zoom level.

If one sets the Max zoom level of the periscope (or obs periscope) to x6 then you need to adjust the AngularAngle to 57,265 (or something close to that value) to have the correct calibration.

I tested it using a Small Gun boat (Atami) since the roof of the formost part of the stearinghouse is really close to 20 ft. in height. According to the periscope manual the lines are calibrated from a 20 ft. target at 400, 500, 1000, 2500, 7500 and 110000 yards distances in high power.

From my findings the Kim Rønhof Range Calculator Mark 3B can be used with this setting without problems BUT the 3B's x1 scale has to be used with x6 zoom when using the periscope markings. In x1.5 zoom you use the same scale (x1) but you have to multiply the range with 4 to get the right figure.

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From some testing and resetting of the AngularAngle i have found that there is a pretty big difference from the Attack Periscope to the Observations periscope.

In order to accomodate ship lengths and heights in both attack and observations periscope so that you have a correct FOV on both scopes and match zoom levels and scope deviderlines you have to have the following settings in the Camaras.dat file (IF using L3th4l's Better Scopes.

Observations Periscope
ZoomMin 1.5
ZoomMax 6
AngularAngle 37 (not totally adjusted, but my closest nearest guestimate after 3 hours testing)

Attack Periscope
ZoomMin 1.5
ZoomMax 6
AngularAngle 60 (again the closest nearest guestimate from all the testing)

The bino and Uzo should have the following values

ZoomMin 1
ZoomMax 7
AngularAngle 57.265
FarDistance 30000

(binocular only)
Elevation Min -30
Elevation Max 85
CameraParams ClipDistance 2

Used in conjunction with a Scene.dat file where one has added a Horizon catagory with a Zmax of 3000 then you should have a great HUMAN visual simulation. eg. the AI's will neither benefit nor be handicaped from this. This is the approximate of the 16km visibility mod. The above changes to the Camaras.dat file can be used without the scene.dat changes without problems though.

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Old 05-20-07, 02:21 PM   #14
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Hey, Mav, with regards to AngularAngle, does that value represent the collimator and head prism of the periscope? I was looking through the Submarine Periscope Manual and they show collimator and head prism at an angle of 74.5 but I'm guessing it's for the attack scope?
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Old 05-20-07, 04:48 PM   #15
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Hey, Mav, with regards to AngularAngle, does that value represent the collimator and head prism of the periscope? I was looking through the Submarine Periscope Manual and they show collimator and head prism at an angle of 74.5 but I'm guessing it's for the attack scope?
Lets see if my english can explain this good enough.

The head Prism at the angle of 74,5 deg. is elevation - the Submarine P. Manual describes that the scope can elevate up to 74.5 degrees - meaning you can look up at that max angle. That is represented in the camaras.dat as well as MaxElevation (set to 74,5 in mine) and MinElevation (set to -10)

As i see the AngularAngle - it equals a value that sets Field of View of the total screen size. ie. if its set to 60 your total screen field of view will be 60 degrees from left to right side of the screen. Now if you change zoom level, but maintain the AngularAngle at the same value - you will allso change the "Linier Field of View" that is a product of True Field of View. ie. changing only zoom lets you zoom only that much as the angularangle sets a restriction to it. But if you change the FOV with zoom you get more dynamic results and can have the ships fill the correct amount of "scope" at the correct distance.

That way you can use the periscope markings in the attack scope with a real Range Calculator Mark3B, calculating the range manualy by "counting the ticks and spinning the wheel". Apart from that this small change will enable you to ID ships from further out and spotting them from further out.


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