Re-enable AP Shells in GWX3.0

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 09:58 AM

Hello i am new to the forums (and i mean in all forums so this is my first post in my life in a forum) and i want a little help. I have SH3 with GWX 3.0 an the warships mod, so i have this little problem that my guns does not have any AP shells,so how i can enable them?

P.S. Due to my little experiance in forums i am sorry from the beggining if am not posting this right or in the right place.
P.S. 2 I know a little modding i have mod my mod a little to my liking so i will understand what i have to do.

Sailor Steve · 12-14-14, 10:07 AM

WOW!

Welcome aboard.

GWX removes AP and AA shells, because historically they didn't use them. Merchants and destroyers have no armor. The smallest ship to carry armor is the light cruiser, and if you really want to take your 8.8cm gun up against six 6" (15cm) guns, be my guest.

One of the first rules I learned is to always keep a copy of the stock game handy in a special folder so I can grab any unmodded files I might need in the future.

I've forgotten how to restore the stock ammo files, but rest assured someone will be along soon with that information.

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 10:22 AM

Thank you.

I know about the historical accuracy i have made i research in the forum for my modding in the game and i have read it many times. The problem is that if you have a mighty Bismarck class with its 36520m gun that have been blown to pieces the HMS Hood and do not have AP shells to fight other BB's it is a little sad.

I will wait but damn i am impatient to play i am modding, tweaking and testing it to my liking 4 days now (which is nothing compared to the real modders and i salute them for my renewal of my old game).

PS i have made 5 different backups of the game and one in an external disc but thank you about the info

Jeff-Groves · 12-14-14, 01:02 PM

Basic.cfg

Search for AMMO_TYPE

Example:

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=0
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

Aktungbby · 12-14-14, 01:35 PM

mitsvan!

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Basic.cfg

Search for AMMO_TYPE

Example:

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=0
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

No it has not do anything i still can not see the AP image on my gun ammo selection. In my WSM basic there was mising the

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20

which i have added, but it hasnt worked.
Thanks anyway Jeff.
Salutes Aktungbby

Jeff-Groves · 12-14-14, 02:21 PM

the ; infront disables the line.

So...

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=0 < Change this from 0 to the number you want
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=100 < New setting
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

the ; infront disables the line.

So...

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=0 < Change this from 0 to the number you want
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=40
;HE=60
;SS=20
AP=100 < New setting
HE=110
SS=0
Renown=0

I have done this but it doesnt work actually here it is

Quote:

[AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32
Idx=0
Year=1939
Month=1
;AP=999
;HE=999
;SS=999
AP=999
HE=999
SS=999
Renown=0

note1* 999 for testing
note2* AP ammo it is there but if i change it to HE i can not change it back to AP.

Jeff-Groves · 12-14-14, 03:41 PM

Check the GUNS_SUB.sim file in the library folder.

GWX 3 sets the ammo amounts there.
Not sure if the War ship mod changes anything there.

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 04:50 PM

And no this bloody image doesnt show its self, as you see the AP shells are loaded in the guns but the image for the selection is not, only the HE is visible

Jeff-Groves · 12-14-14, 06:44 PM

My guess would be something in the menu_1024_768.ini might be wrong.
I never looked at the Warship mod myself.

THEBERBSTER · 12-14-14, 07:23 PM

A warm welcome ‘mitsvan to the Subsim family.

You will always find someone here to help you.

Link to my SH3 – SH4 – SH5 posts:

Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It.

Also Included Are Some Useful Download Links

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804

You can use TDW’Generic File Patcher with STEAM see my Tutorial Post #125

mitsvan · 12-14-14, 08:15 PM

Yes complete success. It was a little sneaking semicolon

;

in the menu_1024_768.ini that i wasnt see the previous times when i was searching it, if you remove it then the shells appear again. And now lets see the solution:

We change this

Quote:

[G38 I8]
Name=;AP_label
Type=1029;Static text
ItemID=0x38000011
ParentID=0x38000000
Pos=977,212,27,20
Color=;0xB4B4B4FE
Font=;14
Text=;671
TextFlags=;0x5

[G38 I9]
Name=;AP_shell
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x38000001
ParentID=0x38000000
Pos=979,320,21,128
Color=0xFFFFFFFF
Materials=3
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=;data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 0=0,0,0.33,1
Mat 1=;data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 1=0.33,0,0.33,1
Mat 2=;data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 2=0.66,0,0.33,1
MatFlags=;0x1
TexFmt=;0x5
Drag=;false
BmpState=;1
NeedFocus=;true
SelOne=;true
IdGroup=;0
StatesColors=;0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF
ToolTipText=;2230

To this

Quote:

[G3A I8]
Name=AP_label
Type=1029;Static text
ItemID=0x3A000011
ParentID=0x3A000000
Pos=977,212,27,20
Color=0xB4B4B4FE
Font=14
Text=671
TextFlags=0x5

[G3A I9]
Name=AP_shell
Type=1031;Stat bmp array
ItemID=0x3A000001
ParentID=0x3A000000
Pos=979,320,21,128
Color=0xFFFFFFFF
Materials=3
Display=2;Linear
Mat 0=data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 0=0,0,0.33,1
Mat 1=data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 1=0.33,0,0.33,1
Mat 2=data/menu/gui/Shells/AP_shell.tga
Crop 2=0.66,0,0.33,1
MatFlags=0x1
TexFmt=0x5
Drag=false
BmpState=1
NeedFocus=true
SelOne=true
IdGroup=0
StatesColors=0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF, 0xFFFFFFFF
ToolTipText=2230

Problem solved all now is perfect thank you for your help, now i can enjoy my sleep.

Hello THEBERBSTER thanks for the welcome and the links.
note1* I do not use steam i have an old-time cd-rom of the game and i am using the rld exe
note2* You can find though in steam by the same name were i play my E:TW and N:TW

note3 Now i have to find how to change the thread title that the problem solved and maybe somebody tell me a better title to help others find faster the solution to this subject. Until then goodnight....

Sailor Steve · 12-14-14, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitsvan

note3 Now i have to find how to change the thread title that the problem solved and maybe somebody tell me a better title to help others find faster the solution to this subject. Until then goodnight....

You can't...but I can.

mitsvan · 12-15-14, 06:42 AM

Thanks for that.
Can we change it to Re-enable AP Shells in GWX3.0 or somethink like that?

12-14-14, 10:07 AM	#2
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	WOW! Welcome aboard. GWX removes AP and AA shells, because historically they didn't use them. Merchants and destroyers have no armor. The smallest ship to carry armor is the light cruiser, and if you really want to take your 8.8cm gun up against six 6" (15cm) guns, be my guest. One of the first rules I learned is to always keep a copy of the stock game handy in a special folder so I can grab any unmodded files I might need in the future. I've forgotten how to restore the stock ammo files, but rest assured someone will be along soon with that information. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

12-14-14, 01:35 PM	#5
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12-14-14, 09:58 AM	#1
mitsvan Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 9 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Re-enable AP Shells in GWX3.0 Hello i am new to the forums (and i mean in all forums so this is my first post in my life in a forum) and i want a little help. I have SH3 with GWX 3.0 an the warships mod, so i have this little problem that my guns does not have any AP shells,so how i can enable them? P.S. Due to my little experiance in forums i am sorry from the beggining if am not posting this right or in the right place. P.S. 2 I know a little modding i have mod my mod a little to my liking so i will understand what i have to do.

12-14-14, 10:22 AM	#3
mitsvan Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 9 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Thank you. I know about the historical accuracy i have made i research in the forum for my modding in the game and i have read it many times. The problem is that if you have a mighty Bismarck class with its 36520m gun that have been blown to pieces the HMS Hood and do not have AP shells to fight other BB's it is a little sad. I will wait but damn i am impatient to play i am modding, tweaking and testing it to my liking 4 days now (which is nothing compared to the real modders and i salute them for my renewal of my old game). PS i have made 5 different backups of the game and one in an external disc but thank you about the info

12-14-14, 01:02 PM	#4
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Basic.cfg Search for AMMO_TYPE Example: [AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32 Idx=0 Year=1939 Month=1 ;AP=40 ;HE=60 ;SS=20 AP=0 HE=110 SS=0 Renown=0

12-14-14, 02:21 PM	#7
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	the ; infront disables the line. So... [AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32 Idx=0 Year=1939 Month=1 ;AP=40 ;HE=60 ;SS=20 AP=0 < Change this from 0 to the number you want HE=110 SS=0 Renown=0 [AMMO_TYPE0];10.5cm SK C/32 Idx=0 Year=1939 Month=1 ;AP=40 ;HE=60 ;SS=20 AP=100 < New setting HE=110 SS=0 Renown=0

12-14-14, 03:41 PM	#9
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Check the GUNS_SUB.sim file in the library folder. GWX 3 sets the ammo amounts there. Not sure if the War ship mod changes anything there.

12-14-14, 06:44 PM	#11
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,649 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	My guess would be something in the menu_1024_768.ini might be wrong. I never looked at the Warship mod myself.

12-14-14, 07:23 PM	#12
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	A warm welcome ‘mitsvan to the Subsim family. You will always find someone here to help you. Link to my SH3 – SH4 – SH5 posts: Step By Step Tutorials & How To Do It. Also Included Are Some Useful Download Links http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=211804 You can use TDW’Generic File Patcher with STEAM see my Tutorial Post #125 __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

12-15-14, 06:42 AM	#15
mitsvan Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 9 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Thanks for that. Can we change it to Re-enable AP Shells in GWX3.0 or somethink like that?