[REL] Environmental MOD for Silent Hunter 5

[zack]

many thx m8,i will test it :up:

[Krauter]

file front is down..

[Krauter]

for some reason my nights have all of a sudden become like this....
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2109/darkcs.png
By furbs9999 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/furbs9999) at 2010-06-15

im sure they wasnt before...checked and rechecked my mods.

im using the lighter nights version 2.2 patched.

any idea whats causing it and can anyone help?


I have a question, I am using Env. 2.2 at the moment, and my nights are NOTHING like this.. I am wondering how I could be able to get my nights this dark as I enjoy the surprise factor inherent to night engagements.

[THE_MASK]

I have a question, I am using Env. 2.2 at the moment, and my nights are NOTHING like this.. I am wondering how I could be able to get my nights this dark as I enjoy the surprise factor inherent to night engagements.Gamma control in graphics options or on your monitor or both .

[Krauter]

well, atm im running the game at about 50 gamma.. any lower and it becomes awkward

[303_Michcich]

Any chance for 2.3 mod with lighter nights + Abyssal Depths 2.0 ? I`m currently using this set but it gives dark nights only...

[Michal788]

With this mod (env 2.3) i see a halo sun.:-?
Why is the sun halo and how can I delete the halo from sun?
The light.cfg is from this MOD.

thnks

[Krauter]

Nah, if that's how you intended it, it's all good. :D Would using the default FogDistances.cfg affect anything other than fog? If so, I can just swap that out, no problem. :)

To do this do I just delete FogDistances.cfg from this Mod?

[TheBeast]

To do this do I just delete FogDistances.cfg from this Mod?

When I was having problems getting a visual on targets with light fog =. I removed the FogDistances.cfg and didn't encounter any other issue's.

[Krauter]

Thanks

[SteelViking]

Yeah, it alright to delete the fogdistances.cfg from the mod, that is what I did to fix the fog problem.

[W_clear]

Environmental 2.4 MOD replace the Environmental 2.1 MOD and 2.3

1.Adjust the color of each climate more realistic
2.New fog .Facilitate the fighting fog。
Installation method. Cover the Environment 2.0MOD.

[Paco]

Hi,

that means, I have to install first the version 2.0 (jsgme) and then the version 2.4?

I can't find that 2.0, only a download for Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar.

Could you help me please,
Paco.

[W_clear]

Hi,

that means, I have to install first the version 2.0 (jsgme) and then the version 2.4?

I can't find that 2.0, only a download for Environment MOD For SH5_1.2.rar.

Could you help me please,
Paco.
Environment MOD For SH5_1.2--------------->Environment MOD 2.0

[Paco]

thanks for the very fast answer :-)

[Michal788]

W clear in de historical missions "In spite of everything"
you see an halo sun.

Is that correct?

[W_clear]

W clear in de historical missions "In spite of everything"
you see an halo sun.

Is that correct?
I still think that halo sun is unrealistic in the version 1.2.The reality of the outline of the sun should be clear-cut. Reality sun should be more bright halo.

I do not like the sun in patch 1.2。But I can not find a better way to adjust it。

Ti's a wrong
http://i47.tinypic.com/11ug5eq.jpg
Ti's a right
http://i49.tinypic.com/2vkdz45.jpg

[Ragtag]

Thanks for the update :)
Does this fix the CTD problem?

[W_clear]

If you are experiencing CTD with this mod, whether you have astradeus' mod or not, this should fix it. I have redone all colors(both land colors, and sea colors) to referenced ones. If you still get CTD using this ClimateZones fix, it is a 98% chance that it is being caused by something else.

To be clear, this is simply the original ClimateZones.tga that came with the mod with all unreferenced colors taken out to stop the CTDs.

Link:
http://www.filefront.com/16781757/Completely%20Fixed%20ClimateZones.7z
That'sright。:salute: Thanks

[W_clear]

Thanks for the update :)
Does this fix the CTD problem?
I forgot it。Sorry。you can use @ SteelViking

[THE_MASK]

Very nice , thanks .

[SteelViking]

That'sright。:salute: Thanks

You are more than welcome.

W_clear, for the sake of easy install, you might just want to release a full version of your mod with all the latest patches and my climate zones fix built right in. That way people would only have to deal with one install. Anyway, thanks for the update:salute:

[Ragtag]

You are more than welcome.

W_clear, for the sake of easy install, you might just want to release a full version of your mod with all the latest patches and my climate zones fix built right in. That way people would only have to deal with one install. Anyway, thanks for the update:salute:

That would be very much appreciated :)

[SteelViking]

I went ahead and packaged the whole mod with W_clear's and my fixes included.

http://www.filefront.com/16821629/Environment%20MOD_2.4.7z

[TheBeast]

I went ahead and packaged the whole mod with W_clear's and my fixes included.

http://www.filefront.com/16821629/Environment%20MOD_2.4.7z

Have you posted it to the Downloads section of SubSim?

[SteelViking]

Have you posted it to the Downloads section of SubSim?

No, just follow the link provided.

[furby]

cheers...is that the lighter nights version?

[SteelViking]

cheers...is that the lighter nights version?

No it is the darker night version, sorry. In my opinion the standard darker night version is more accurate anyway though.

[Paco]

hmmm, it crashes to desktop.

I think at the moment when spotted an enemy ship or u-boat. Without the mod, no problems.

Tested whie in harbour.

Paco

[W_clear]

Environmental 2.5 MOD for SH5_1.2

Environmental 2.5 MOD replace the Environmental 2.4 MOD

1. The new Sun, a more realistic size and halo.

2. Eliminate BUG that some people use the environment MOD occurred snowflakes screen .

3.Increase all the the climate of the sun more bright.

4.After adjusting all the color MEDIUM-cloudsday.

5.@SteelViking 's new [ClimateZones.tga].Thanks @SteelViking .


Installation method. Cover the Environment 2.0MOD.


W_clear2010.6.22

http://bbsimg.ali213.net/attachments/day_100622/20100622_a205596e5f54d55d5903GvfXMIE71Iio.jpg

[zack]

please release a working Version.

here the same issues as with youre first release,crash to Desk.
the only *.tga file working is the stock or Ail's map,but with this i missed youre fine colors.

[303_Michcich]

does astradeus Abyssal Depth 2.0 work with this Env 2.5 version as well ?

[zack]

does astradeus Abyssal Depth 2.0 work with this Env 2.5 version as well ?

yes,this map worked but he has changed *.cfg's in it. :hmmm:

[SteelViking]

No guys, there is literally no way that the ClimateZones.tga could be causing CTDs if you have the newest version. I completely redid it. There are no unreferenced colors in it. I have tested it and several others have told me that the newest version solved their problems.

But yes astradeus' mod will still work with this. However, CTDs have already been reported when using his mod.

Either way, you are more than welcome W_clear.

[Ragtag]

I'm also getting CTD with 2.5. Obviously something is wrong. Hope you manage to sort it out because i really want to use this mod :)

[SteelViking]

I'm also getting CTD with 2.5. Obviously something is wrong. Hope you manage to sort it out because i really want to use this mod :)

Are you getting CTD when using time compression, or anytime?

[Gunfighter]

Graphic error when using EV Mod 2.3
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/Graphicglitch.png
When I go below deck and enter Sub Pens ??? can you help

This now corrected with 2.5 Thank you:yeah:

[zack]

Are you getting CTD when using time compression, or anytime?

only with timecompression,with youre newest map too. :06:

example, 30. April near Brest or 20.September near the azores, exactly at the same point.

[SteelViking]

only with timecompression,with youre newest map too. :06:

example, 30. April near Brest or 20.September near the azores, exactly at the same point.

I just checked it again, and there are no problems with the .tga file in that area. It is weird that it only happens in TC. You see, when you hit an error in the .tga it will CTD even at no TC. Ok, I guess I will start poking around with the .cfg files and see if I can find anything that might single out those areas for problems.

[Ragtag]

Are you getting CTD when using time compression, or anytime?

I'm getting it in different situations. Last time it crashed was right after saving in open seas of Englands coast. Before that it crashed when i was interacting with a crewmember.
I played for 2 hours straight the last round with no crashes so i have no idea what can be causing it. It might be TC since i use that quite often, and the last 2 hour session i didn't use TC due to an attack on a large convoy. I never use TC in combat. But i never experienced a crash when in TC mode just in betweens.

This mod makes SH5 look incredible so i hope you manage to nail the bug :)

Here's the mods i use though i don't get CTD without enviroment mod:

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.5.0.150

Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
AilSmoke 1.7
AilWhiteInterior 1.0
Conus' Graphic Mod 1.0
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Alt w beards
Free Cam Tweak 1.1 - Regular
NewUIs_TDC_3_0_8_ByTheDarkWraith
Environment MOD_2.0
Environmental 2.5MOD

[SteelViking]

Thanks for the info Ragtag. This is going way out on a limb, but could you do a favor for me? Could you run everything the way you have it including the Env mod, but without Free Cam Tweak 1.1 - Regular. I am wondering if it is some unseen conflict between Env and certain cameras.cam setups. Like I said this is unlikely, but we can use all the help we can get in narrowing this down. Also, does TDW's UI modify the cameras.cam file (I use reaper7's so I can't just look without downloading it).

[TheDarkWraith]

Also, does TDW's UI modify the cameras.cam file (I use reaper7's so I can't just look without downloading it).

no I don't :DL

[SteelViking]

no I don't :DL

Thanks for the info TDW.:up:

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Would it be possible in future versions to get the underwater brightness and fog distances cut? It's kinda silly being able to ships cruising on the surface over 1 km away...

[W_clear]

Would it be possible in future versions to get the underwater brightness and fog distances cut? It's kinda silly being able to ships cruising on the surface over 1 km away...


Has no time to adjust underwater part. But I hope that my work is to be more realistic.

You can try to change the value of the green part to large、

Silent Hunter 5\data\Env\FogDistances.cfg

[FogDistances 0]
ObjectsRelativeZMin=0.000000
ObjectsRelativeZMax=0.800000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.050000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMax=0.035000
CloudsRelativeZMin=0.880000
CloudsRelativeZMax=0.880500
SkyYMin=-50.000000
SkyYMax=75.000000
SeaRelativeZMin=0.000000
SeaRelativeZMax=0.230000
YFogScale=0.010000
[FogDistances 1]
ObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.001000
ObjectsRelativeZMax=0.300000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.004000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMax=0.020000
CloudsRelativeZMin=0.880000
CloudsRelativeZMax=0.880500
SkyYMin=-10.000000
SkyYMax=90.000000
SeaRelativeZMin=0.000000
SeaRelativeZMax=0.200000
YFogScale=0.000000
[FogDistances 2]
ObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.005000
ObjectsRelativeZMax=0.100000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.004000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMax=0.010000
CloudsRelativeZMin=0.830000
CloudsRelativeZMax=0.880500
SkyYMin=0.000000
SkyYMax=3000.000000
SeaRelativeZMin=0.000000
SeaRelativeZMax=0.150000
YFogScale=0.000000

[FogDistances 3]
ObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.005000
ObjectsRelativeZMax=0.050000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMin=-0.004000
UnderwaterObjectsRelativeZMax=0.006000
CloudsRelativeZMin=0.830000
CloudsRelativeZMax=0.880500
SkyYMin=0.00000
SkyYMax=3000.000000
SeaRelativeZMin=0.000000
SeaRelativeZMax=0.015000
YFogScale=0.000000

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Has no time to adjust underwater part. But I hope that my work is to be more realistic.

You can try to change the value of the green part to large、

Silent Hunter 5\data\Env\FogDistances.cfg

So making those numbers larger decreases the view distance?

[SteelViking]

Here is Env 2.5 prepackaged and ready to install, all fixes included. I meant to do this sooner, but I got kind of caught up with my mod and forgot, sorry.

Link: http://www.filefront.com/16867405/Environment%20MOD_2.5.7z

[stoppro]

I have just returned from patrol using W_clear 2.4-and abssal depths mod.I had no problems.Isaw the new version of 2.5 so I took out 2.4 and abssal depths mods and installed 2.5 then steel viking new interior mod. ctd while crossing the north sea. so now I will try 2.5 then abssal depth then s.v's new mod I will let you know how that goes when i head out tomorrow.there is something funky going on here but i will get something to work. just thought you would want to know. these mods look great thanks for all yours and w_clears work

[dougandtoni]

Here is Env 2.5 prepackaged and ready to install, all fixes included. I meant to do this sooner, but I got kind of caught up with my mod and forgot, sorry.

Link: http://www.filefront.com/16867405/Environment%20MOD_2.5.7z

You are a champion. Cheers :yeah::yeah::yeah:

[W_clear]

Here is Env 2.5 prepackaged and ready to install, all fixes included. I meant to do this sooner, but I got kind of caught up with my mod and forgot, sorry.

Link: http://www.filefront.com/16867405/Environment%20MOD_2.5.7z
I do not understand, why do not you put me through I agree with my MOD into your download？

[W_clear]

New results。There are foam from the 5m. Some work needs to do.However, I consider whether to release the MOD:rock:

Screenshot is 6 meters and 5 meters

http://i46.tinypic.com/6i413n.jpghttp://i47.tinypic.com/30w2wye.jpg

[TheBeast]

New results。There are foam from the 5m. Some work needs to do.However, I consider whether to release the MOD:rock:

Are your saying. more sea foam on slightly calmer sea? if so I luv it.

[jaxa]

Looks really good :up:
You should continue your work, it's a must have addon for SH5. Don't stop it.

[SteelViking]

I do not understand, why do not you put me through I agree with my MOD into your download？

The link I have posted here is just your full mod with your latest update 2.5 already in it so that it is easier for people to install. I made no changes to it other than putting all of your stuff together. I hope that you don't mind me doing that, I am just trying to help people enjoy your mod.

[rsvette12]

I for one Viking am glad you did it, getting very confusing, thanks and huge thanks to w_clear. :salute: :up:

Rich

[furby]

cheers viking! and big thanks to W_clear for the mod!

[tonschk]

Thank you W_Clear :yeah:, your Mod is Superb :DL :woot: , cheers SteelViking! :yeah:

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[Claudius]

Can it install the version 2.5 without needing of the 2.0? Is it obligatory to have 2.0 installed and later to install to 2.5?

[SteelViking]

Can it install the version 2.5 without needing of the 2.0? Is it obligatory to have 2.0 installed and later to install to 2.5?

Just follow the link I posted on the page before this one, it is the whole mod updated to 2.5 already.:up:

[W_clear]

Are your saying. more sea foam on slightly calmer sea? if so I luv it.
In reality, There is a little foam on slightly calmer sea。Recommend you see this video。

http://www.verycd.com/topics/2781685/

[SteelViking]

Hey W_clear, are you going to release another update for the Environment mod soon? Because, I am about to release another version of my interior mod, and I would like to make sure that it stays compatible with your mod since both of our mods make changes to the lights.cfg file.

[pascal4541]

Very great mod :yeah:

[Michal788]

Here is Env 2.5 prepackaged and ready to install, all fixes included. I meant to do this sooner, but I got kind of caught up with my mod and forgot, sorry.

Link: http://www.filefront.com/16867405/Environment%20MOD_2.5.7z

Hi steelviking can you make also a "light-night"version of this packet mod?
Thnks :yeah:

[SteelViking]

Hi steelviking can you make also a "light-night"version of this packet mod?
Thnks :yeah:

Actually, I am not sure if the lighter night add-on has been kept up to date. The v2.5 changed some files that the lighter-night package would overwrite.

W_clear, is it still ok to install the lighter night add-on over 2.5?

[TheBeast]

In reality, There is a little foam on slightly calmer sea。Recommend you see this video。

http://www.verycd.com/topics/2781685/

I don't read Konji... I am lost on page.

[TheBeast]

All you have to do to get rid of the halos is change the following in Environment_2.2/data/cfg/lights.cfg:


[InteractiveObjectsHighlight]
Spread=0 <-----Make these two numbers zero like this
Blend=0 <------Make these two numbers zero like this
ColorR=0.58
ColorG=0.47
ColorB=0.23

This text block is third from the top, can't miss it.

:rock::rock::rock::rock:

[Michal788]

Actually, I am not sure if the lighter night add-on has been kept up to date. The v2.5 changed some files that the lighter-night package would overwrite.

W_clear, is it still ok to install the lighter night add-on over 2.5?

W_clear is the Light-night updated ?

[W_clear]

W_clear is the Light-night updated ?
Don't need Light-night mod!

2.5 version is very bright at night.

[W_clear]

http://i26.tinypic.com/ju935u.jpg

Black smoke test

[TheBeast]

That smoke looks really good!

[Sudo]

O Yeah!! :yeah: That is indeed some nice smoke. :salute:

[W_clear]

Environmental 3.0 MOD for SH5_1.2

Environmental 3.0 MOD replace all the Environmental MOD

1. There are foam from the 5m.

2. Smoke more black.

3.Form and wake more white.

4.Once again, adjust the color of the various climatic environment.

[TheBeast]

When I remove halo's, what impact if any does that have on this MOD?

data/cfg/lights.cfg

[InteractiveObjectsHighlight]
Spread=0;<-----Make these two numbers zero like this
Blend=0;<------Make these two numbers zero like this


Please Advise!

[rascal101]

This looks even better than before - this is superb!

BUT

After we install it are we going to have problems with the different envirnment zones - ie CTD whenever we go near land or change from one zone to another

Just asking not critising

Regards
Rascal

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Is it possible to remove the underwater ripple effect? If so, does anyone here know where those variables are located? Look at any underwater photos from scuba divers, submarines, submersibles, etc and there is never any sort of ripple effect; a perpetual mistake in ubi's rendering of the ocean...

[TheBeast]

Is it possible to remove the underwater ripple effect? If so, does anyone here know where those variables are located? Look at any underwater photos from scuba divers, submarines, submersibles, etc and there is never any sort of ripple effect; a perpetual mistake in ubi's rendering of the ocean...

Edit your Submarine SIM or FX file to remove that effect.

[W_clear]

Is it possible to remove the underwater ripple effect? If so, does anyone here know where those variables are located? Look at any underwater photos from scuba divers, submarines, submersibles, etc and there is never any sort of ripple effect; a perpetual mistake in ubi's rendering of the ocean...

Can you say that more simpler ? Because my English is very poor.

[tonschk]

When I remove halo's, what impact if any does that have on this MOD?

data/cfg/lights.cfg

[InteractiveObjectsHighlight]
Spread=0;<-----Make these two numbers zero like this
Blend=0;<------Make these two numbers zero like this


Please Advise!

Probably this is a matter of personal preferences , but I preffer to keep the halo around the sun :sunny: and keep the halo around the light sources inside the submarine ,everything looks less realistic without the halo , but this is just my opinion

.

[W_clear]

When I remove halo's, what impact if any does that have on this MOD?

data/cfg/lights.cfg

[InteractiveObjectsHighlight]
Spread=0;<-----Make these two numbers zero like this
Blend=0;<------Make these two numbers zero like this
Please Advise!
You can try do it to test. I have not found a way let foam to more white of the 5 m wind speed .Maybe it can help。:DL

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Edit your Submarine SIM or FX file to remove that effect.

I'm not talking about the caustics on the hull, I'm talking about removing the wavy effect on the camera when underwater. It's not realistic and it's kinda been bothering me since I got SH5.

[W_clear]

I'm not talking about the caustics on the hull, I'm talking about removing the wavy effect on the camera when underwater. It's not realistic and it's kinda been bothering me since I got SH5.
I never adjust the underwater part, and so I have time I look at your question。

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Okay, cool :salute:

I do know that it was a feature in stock SH4 that environment mods later removed, so it should be in those files somewhere...

[SteelViking]

When I remove halo's, what impact if any does that have on this MOD?

data/cfg/lights.cfg

[InteractiveObjectsHighlight]
Spread=0;<-----Make these two numbers zero like this
Blend=0;<------Make these two numbers zero like this


Please Advise!

Actually, he is not talking about environmental halos, he is talking about the halos that are placed around interactive objects.

@TheBeast,

If you remove the halos manually it would not make any difference to this mod, however, if you use another mod to do it, it would because it would overwrite the lights.cfg of this mod.

Edit: By the way, thanks for the update W_clear:yeah:

[Will-Rommel]

Hi steel, is your interior mod still compatible with this Env-mod version?

[SteelViking]

Hi steel, is your interior mod still compatible with this Env-mod version?

No it is not, sorry. However, since version 1.0 of my interior was synced up with an older version of Env, it will not have a big impact on the environment(so you could still use them together really). I have setup v1.1 to be fully compatible with Env 3.0 but I am still waiting on BIGREG to release.

[stoppro]

S.V.-I ran envo 3.0 with your interior mod- freeze went back to 2.5 and your mod worked fine all night. I will wait for your new version then put 3.0 back in. just letting you know. thanks for all work you and W_clear are doing

[reaper7]

Working ok here. Installed Enviroment 3 first, then the Interiors Mod.
No crash or freeze yet to report :up:.

[Activated Mods in order]
R7 HiRes Mod Core Files
Capthelms SH5 Audio Mod
Touch up for Capthelm's Audio
Conus' Graphic Mod 1.1
Environment 3.0 MOD
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.0
SteelViking's Sky Banding Mod
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2 Stock w beards
No magic skills v1.4

[stoppro]

I think I read somewhere that damage assement might have something to do with it ,I will take it out and try that. thanks

[SteelViking]

Working ok here. Installed Enviroment 3 first, then the Interiors Mod.
No crash or freeze yet to report :up:.

[Activated Mods in order]
R7 HiRes Mod Core Files
Capthelms SH5 Audio Mod
Touch up for Capthelm's Audio
Conus' Graphic Mod 1.1
Environment 3.0 MOD
SteelViking's Interior Mod V1.0
SteelViking's Sky Banding Mod
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2 Stock w beards
No magic skills v1.4

Good to know that setup is working. However, you should not be playing, you should be working on that officers' clipboard:haha: just kidding.

[reaper7]

Good to know that setup is working. However, you should not be playing, you should be working on that officers' clipboard:haha: just kidding.

:salute:


:haha:

[Arclight]

I think I read somewhere that damage assement might have something to do with it ,I will take it out and try that. thanks
Any link? :06:

Don't see how, DA just adds a block to an AI file. :hmmm:

[stoppro]

I don't see how either but I was just trying different things,but I did take it out and ran enviro3.0-sv's intieror -svand reapers sky mod -inproved shadows and it ran perfect and it's still going. I also kept critical hits mod in also.It might have been the order they were enabled.I'm just happy it looks good and works.

[SteelViking]

I don't see how either but I was just trying different things,but I did take it out and ran enviro3.0-sv's intieror -svand reapers sky mod -inproved shadows and it ran perfect and it's still going. I also kept critical hits mod in also.It might have been the order they were enabled.I'm just happy it looks good and works.

Hey, that is one nice list of mods:D

[stoppro]

well I do have TDW 'UI 270 in there but it has been there so long I forget it's a mod. Just part of the game now.

[TheBeast]

I do not know where to ask this but here seemed a very good spot since it is kind of related to Environment.
I noticed the Conning Tower Wake is very small. Much smaller then it should be. In the picture below I just plowed through a wave higher then my Conning Tower and barely made a splash. That splash should have been huge and dwarfed the Tower.
Is there any way to adjust this?:06:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=255&pictureid=2523
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=255&pictureid=2560
Sorry if I am totally out of place with this.

Thanks!

[TheDarkWraith]

I do not know where to ask this but here seemed a very good spot since it is kind of related to Environment.
I noticed the Conning Tower Wake is very small. Much smaller then it should be. In the picture below I just plowed through a wave higher then my Conning Tower and barely made a splash. That splash should have been huge and dwarfed the Tower.
Is there any way to adjust this?:06:

I noticed when doing the sub flags that only one version of each sub's conn has effects added to it (bow wave splash, etc.). This is why they are non-existent on some conns.

[TheBeast]

I noticed when doing the sub flags that only one version of each sub's conn has effects added to it (bow wave splash, etc.). This is why they are non-existent on some conns.
I was going to add that this wave splash looked as if it were from the cannon. I didn't want to sound like I was Ubi bashing but now that you pointed that out, even the cannon splash is way to small. Going to add this to the Ubi Dev's Bug list.

[SteelViking]

I noticed when doing the sub flags that only one version of each sub's conn has effects added to it (bow wave splash, etc.). This is why they are non-existent on some conns.

Hey TDW, I don't want to sound needy, but could you possibly hex edit the conning wave into the ones which are missing it? If it is controlled by an .fx file it seems like it should be possible, or am I totally mistaken on this one?

[TheDarkWraith]

Hey TDW, I don't want to sound needy, but could you possibly hex edit the conning wave into the ones which are missing it? If it is controlled by an .fx file it seems like it should be possible, or am I totally mistaken on this one?

Once I figure out what this controller does (ObjectCtrlsRef) I'll be better able to answer your request.

[Madox58]

Once I figure out what this controller does (ObjectCtrlsRef) I'll be better able to answer your request.

It's nothing more then a controller link from an object or node as defined in the FX.GR2 or base.GR2 file to an effect.
It mostly points to the BAZA_FX.dat in the Library.

[TheDarkWraith]

It's nothing more then a controller link from an object or node as defined in the FX.GR2 or base.GR2 file to an effect.
It mostly points to the BAZA_FX.dat in the Library.

ah, so it's a way to link .GR2 nodes to classical SH3/4 style nodes. Interesting......I see some possibilities with this.

[Madox58]

Yes.
So instead of placeing a particle generator in the sim or val?
Place a simple dummy node.
Use the ObjectCtrlsRef to link it to another effect or whatever.
So for Cons that have no wave effects?
Place a few nodes, connect them to the pre-built Con wave effects
found in the BAZA_FX.dat with ObjectCtrlsRef and your done.

So infact, take your smoke mod as an example.
Place a node where you want the smoke to emit.
Build one dat with the smoke effect.
Do the ObjectCtrlsRef in the sim or where ever you want.
Job over!

[Hendrix78]

^^Geniuses at play :)

[Arclight]

Boys and their toys. :O:

[kriller2]

Hi W_clear, I just popped in to say hi and have tried the new version to see the white caps at 5m waves. The water colour/reflection on the waves and the white caps are a huge improvement! the mod is looking better than ever ! nice :yeah:

/K2

[W_clear]

Hi W_clear, I just popped in to say hi and have tried the new version to see the white caps at 5m waves. The water colour/reflection on the waves and the white caps are a huge improvement! the mod is looking better than ever ! nice :yeah:

/K2
Hi, my old friend .thanks!:salute:
But the white caps aren't more white,I dont find ways to adjust its。 Distressed +ing:damn:，Hope that one day there inspiration will patronize me
I think the adjustment is the sun of success，:)

[Yosarian]

With this mod I get ghost crew at dawn like the ghost crew in SH4 and not only the crew is semi-transparent, the whole sub and surface ships also.

Speaking of unrealistic exaggerated colors of the water at all, seems as if the modder would have never seen the North Atlantic in nature.:down:

[marleymen]

So .. don´t use this mod. And your problem ends.

But you had to come here and disturb Mr. W_Clear :down:

Let´s see what you can mod for us man.
(sorry for my bad english, but we spanish get angry too :shifty:)


I ENJOY THIS ABSOLUTELY FREE ENVIRONMENT MODIFICATION.
:yeah: keep up with the good job W_Clear

[SteelViking]

Yeah, on that note, I just want to say, thanks for all your hard work W_clear. This is definitely a must have mod.:yeah:

[W_clear]

Yeah, on that note, I just want to say, thanks for all your hard work W_clear. This is definitely a must have mod.:yeah:
Thanks .

I found a problem: the weather changes so fast，Do you think？

[SteelViking]

Thanks .

I found a problem: the weather changes so fast，Do you think？

Actually, I don't think it changes too fast, I think the weather changes are pretty close to realistic. Out on the open ocean, storms come and go pretty quickly. Also, people were tired of being caught in a storm at the beginning of a patrol, and that same storm lasting the whole patrol. Your mod fixes that problem.:up:

[W_clear]

Actually, I don't think it changes too fast, I think the weather changes are pretty close to realistic. Out on the open ocean, storms come and go pretty quickly. Also, people were tired of being caught in a storm at the beginning of a patrol, and that same storm lasting the whole patrol. Your mod fixes that problem.:up:
You understand wrong. I mean is when changing too fast 。Do you understand

[Nisgeis]

You understand wrong. I mean is when changing too fast 。Do you understand

You mean the speed of transition between one weather state and the next?

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Well that does seem to be a problem... Weather states tend to snap in almost instantly, there is no real transition. :hmmm:

[TheBeast]

It would be a very nice effect to see a fog bank off in the distance and run to it for cover if needed. Though, it may cause a big FPS hit rendering distant weather effects.

[THE_MASK]

It would be a very nice effect to see a fog bank off in the distance and run to it for cover if needed. Though, it may cause a big FPS hit rendering distant weather effects.What if you made some special low cloud layer near the sea surface . I noticed there are diffrent cloud layers . Env\clouds cfg

[W_clear]

You mean the speed of transition between one weather state and the next?
Yes。I want to adjust it:up:

[THE_MASK]

Yes。I want to adjust it:up:

MinWeatherChangeInterval=6 ; [minHours, maxHours], interval in which to trigger a random weather change
MaxWeatherChangeInterval=48 ; [minHours, maxHours], interval in which to trigger a random weather change

[SteelViking]

Oh, ok. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. Yes, I do agree that when the weather changes, it does happen way to fast(basically instantly). However, I figured that it would not be adjustable.

[W_clear]

MinWeatherChangeInterval=6 ; [minHours, maxHours], interval in which to trigger a random weather change
MaxWeatherChangeInterval=48 ; [minHours, maxHours], interval in which to trigger a random weather change
Isn't it，thanks .:)

I have a method, the problem is to adjust after the emergence of a BUG ======= Load the color of a delay filing。:hmmm:

[Dave]

:down: File Front is stating file not found. Could you please re upload it

Thanks

[SteelViking]

Filefront is down, it is not just the link to this mod.

[pascal4541]

Very good job W_clear :up: big thanks

[Seaman_Hornsby]

Filefront is down, it is not just the link to this mod.

Still doesn't seem to be working properly. I was looking to add to my mod-list this afternoon, but none of the Filefront-hosted stuff is working. :shifty:

[SteelViking]

Filefront did a lot of updates over the past couple of days. I would not be surprised if everything uploaded prior to the update was lost.

[Madox58]

I just downloaded Ducimus's release.
:hmmm:

[Seaman_Hornsby]

I just downloaded Ducimus's release.
:hmmm:

Interesting. I've tried about four or five different mods, all hosted on Filefront and couldn't get a single download. All reported "file not found."

Edit: I was able to download the latest UI mod from TDW, which was uploaded to FF yesterday (7-21). I suspect SteelViking is right, that older files have been wiped out or links broken with FF's site updates.

[TheBeast]

Interesting. I've tried about four or five different mods, all hosted on Filefront and couldn't get a single download. All reported "file not found."

Edit: I was able to download the latest UI mod from TDW, which was uploaded to FF yesterday (7-21). I suspect SteelViking is right, that older files have been wiped out or links broken with FF's site updates.

Some times if FileFront.com servers are busy they give file not found error message when the problem really is that the servers are just busy and unable to process your request.
If you wait a few minutes and try again you may eventually get the file. This may take several tries depending on time of day and the amount of requests hitting the servers.

[Sudo]

All day I was receiving the "Your Download Will Start In A Moment" and then it just redirects to the "New And Improved" Filefront 2.0 service. :hmmm: Never did like filefront. Keep the faith fella's, it's service will return. :03:

[rascal101]

Sorry to butt in here with some thing slightly off topic but in the pic below I notice the raised radio direction loop and the various antennae - can you tell us how this was done

Is this something you have discovered or is it a mod from somewhere else

Rascal


I do not know where to ask this but here seemed a very good spot since it is kind of related to Environment.
I noticed the Conning Tower Wake is very small. Much smaller then it should be. In the picture below I just plowed through a wave higher then my Conning Tower and barely made a splash. That splash should have been huge and dwarfed the Tower.
Is there any way to adjust this?:06:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=255&pictureid=2523
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=255&pictureid=2560
Sorry if I am totally out of place with this.

Thanks!

[rascal101]

Hi to you again - now something a little more on topic - I now use Captain von Keldunk Enviro Gold instead of Mr Clear's Enviro3 on the Advise of Mr Sober

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1853

Now to date I have not had a CTD

BUT!

I now while I think Enviro Gold is great, especially good re atmospherics, sky, sun and moon, light overall, clouds and underwater green and visibility
However I believe Mr Clear's Enviro mod has more realistic Ocean colours and weather affected changes - I really wish the best of both these mods could be merged into one all encompassing Enviro mod

Interestingly Mr Arclight recently released Damage Assessment 1.1 he mentions he tweaked his mod to 1.1 because 1.0 might cause some CTD's

So since moving to Keldunk Enviro Gold and Mr Arclight's DA1.1 I have not had a single CTD

So there's something to consider

R

[zack]

@rascal,

i have made my own with w_clear's colors and abyssal depths Climatezone.
its the same Environment as with w_clear's mod but without ctd.

the only thing is,you need Ailclouds for better clouds,and i have no submarine folder in it, i use U-boat Historical Specifications 1.4.

try it out
http://www.file-upload.net/download-2691790/Environment-save-MOD.rar.html

[SteelViking]

@ rascal101,

Here is the thread where discussion of those antennas is going on. There has been talk of putting them into a mod, however, we have not gotten them to work just right yet. You have to know a good bit about Goblin to get this to work, but it is pretty neat.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171815

[TheBeast]

@ rascal101,

Here is the thread where discussion of those antennas is going on. There has been talk of putting them into a mod, however, we have not gotten them to work just right yet. You have to know a good bit about Goblin to get this to work, but it is pretty neat.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171815


I documented how to make the Antenna's raise using information BIGREG sent me. If you know how to use GoblinEditorApp located in your SH5 install folder, it is actually easy to do it for your self.

I didn't make a MOD for it for a couple reasons
It's not my MOD to post.
It's a simple MOD that should be merged with other MOD's that touch the Uboot_Sensors.sim like Periscope Heights MOD by BIGREG.
I am currently working on a Upgrade Packs MOD that fixes some errors(bugs) and adds some missing Upgrades. It will also include the raised Antenna when I am finished.

[SteelViking]

@ The Beast,

:woot: I am glad to hear that you are back in the game comrade. And, I am happy to hear that we may actually get a working upgrade system.

[W_clear]

Environmental 3.1 MOD for SH5_1.2



1. Adjust the color of the tropical environment and others.

2. Changes the speed of transition between one weather state and the next to slower.

3.10 m wind speed of the waves slower.

4.The SUB's left-right drag smaller. Slew of smaller.

5.Adjust the wake of the color.

6.Remove blacksmoke's BUG.


Installation:Cover the environment 3.0

Just install with JSGME.
Wish to have a good hunt.
.


W_clear2010.7.27


http://i26.tinypic.com/egpt8h.jpg
http://i29.tinypic.com/2agiux.jpg

[Ragtag]

Thanks :)

[Sudo]

Any chance someone could upload the 3.1 to subsim or another server? :-?

Filefront still isn't cooperating with me at all. :x

Thanks.

[Vorkapitan]

W_clear;

大西洋绿色颜色是非常接近现实。 它是最佳的I' ve被看见。 加油! :salute::salute::salute::salute:

[Scurvy Dog]

Your work is much appreciated w_Clear! :yep:
Thankyou very much.

[SeaTurtle]

very nice mod. I really like it.

have you modified the explosion effect also ? (changed the explosion flames colors or style ?)

[SteelViking]

very nice mod. I really like it.

have you modified the explosion effect also ? (changed the explosion flames colors or style ?)

I have been working on that a bit. I don't know when I will be making a release for it though, lot to be done.

[eon850aye]

Thank you, thank you, liking this mod very much :salute:

[Gunfighter]

Could you check with FileFront when I try to download 3.1 it takes me to wrong page ????
EDIT: 14.14gmt. OK W_clear managed to fiddle round And Have your Upgrade now.

[W_clear]

Could you check with FileFront when I try to download 3.1 it takes me to wrong page ????
EDIT: 14.14gmt. OK W_clear managed to fiddle round And Have your Upgrade now.
Here you are.

http://rapidshare.com/files/409904775/Environment_3.1_MOD.rar

http://i31.tinypic.com/1zqvbyt.jpg

[tonschk]

Thank you W-Clear :DL, if I understood properly, the idea is to overwrite with "3.1" the previous "3" version with JSGME ? :hmmm:

.

[W_clear]

Thank you W-Clear :DL, if I understood properly, the idea is to overwrite with "3.1" the previous "3" version with JSGME ? :hmmm:

.
You are too smart.:DL
http://i25.tinypic.com/2zzkwgz.jpg

[ShadowMan]

for some reason my nights have all of a sudden become like this....
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2109/darkcs.png
By furbs9999 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/furbs9999) at 2010-06-15

im sure they wasnt before...checked and rechecked my mods.

im using the lighter nights version 2.2 patched.

any idea whats causing it and can anyone help?

Hehe I know the feeling. On my first patrol I got my 1st contact of a merchant ship heading directly at me. So I turn my boat and prepare for surface attack. At the time of estimated interception it was so dark I was all "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-" xD

[rsvette12]

Beautiful work as always thank you. :yeah::yeah::yeah:


Rich

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Speaking of nights, is there a way to get more stars in the sky? Like say, 5-10 times more stars?

This pic is exagerrated, but you get the idea...
http://markunrau.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/random-images/night_sky-9030_0.jpg

[Madox58]

I believe the Stars were hard coded in SH3/SH4
So I'd think SH5 is the same?

[SteelViking]

I believe the Stars were hard coded in SH3/SH4
So I'd think SH5 is the same?

I can't be sure, but I believe that you are right.

[madmax17]

I get some very strange artifacts with this mod, took me a while to find the 'culprit' :damn:

[madmax17]

Seems to work now, I installed the gold version last in jsgme.

edit -Nope still there, comes and goes I guess :(

[Gunfighter]

Speaking of nights, is there a way to get more stars in the sky? Like say, 5-10 times more stars?

This pic is exagerrated, but you get the idea...
http://markunrau.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/random-images/night_sky-9030_0.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/MoreStars.jpg

This would look nice,Stars from your shot

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Well kinda... That pic had a delayed exposure, so all the stars are brighter and more emphasized. How about this one?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:RG2yH2C2qd8-GM:http://files.hexagonstar.com/images/misc/galaxy_starfield.png (http://files.hexagonstar.com/images/misc/galaxy_starfield.png)

Looks black in thumbnail, click for large version.

[Tectronus]

Gunfighters looks way more realistic IMHO. Maybe tone down the brightness alittle.

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Your mod is great, but I noticed the position of the sun at noon was at about almost 5pm position.

[W_clear]

Your mod is great, but I noticed the position of the sun at noon was at about almost 5pm position.
This is not my problem. Is SH5 itself. Also please note. Your location climate。

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Sun's position in sky also depends on lattitude...

[Gunfighter]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/CJHStars.jpg
With your new StarField photo.
Edit:Note stars look brighter on full size ScreenShot Link to full size 1920x1080 http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/CJHStars.jpg
you will have to download it to desk top for best effect.

[Gunfighter]

Gunfighters looks way more realistic IMHO. Maybe tone down the brightness alittle.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/origTonDown.jpg
Toned Down Light

[Capt Jack Harkness]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/CJHStars.jpg
With your new StarField photo.
Edit:Note stars look brighter on full size ScreenShot Link to full size 1920x1080 http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f163/ABThing/CJHStars.jpg
you will have to download it to desk top for best effect.

I like that! :up: Any way you could box it up as a mod?

[Gunfighter]

Sorry not up to Modding but will pass on Pictures to anyone who could use it in a Mod.:up:

[Krauter]

So 3.1 is installed OVER 3.0? or do we just install 3.1 as is?

[SteelViking]

So 3.1 is installed OVER 3.0? or do we just install 3.1 as is?

Install 3.1 over top of 3.0. Or you could deposit the files in their respective folders in 3.0. I could put together a combined 3.1 like I have in the past if people want it that way.

[Krauter]

As i've just redownloaded 3.0 *(thought I didnt need it with 3.1) that'd be good.

A question to W_clear: Why don't you package your Mods in one overall folder? Just a question though I'm not bashing. Your work is incredible but I'm often confused as to what I need for the newest version

[marleymen]

As i've just redownloaded 3.0 *(thought I didnt need it with 3.1) that'd be good.

A question to W_clear: Why don't you package your Mods in one overall folder? Just a question though I'm not bashing. Your work is incredible but I'm often confused as to what I need for the newest version


100% agree mate. W_Clear, that will make installing your MOD "clear", and more people should install and use it.

[SteelViking]

Ok, here is a link to a combined Env3.1:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bjib0cnjc9r3ake

I have made no changes, it is W_clear's work. I have simply put it together so that people will have an easier time installing and so that they have less mod soup issues.

To be clear, if you download and install the file from the link I posted in this thread, you will need no other Env downloads or installs.

[dougandtoni]

Ok, here is a link to a combined Env3.1:

http://www.mediafire.com/?bjib0cnjc9r3ake

I have made no changes, it is W_clear's work. I have simply put it together so that people will have an easier time installing and so that they have less mod soup issues.

To be clear, if you download and install the file from the link I posted in this thread, you will need no other Env downloads or installs.

Thank you:yeah:

[Wolfling04]

Howdy, I love this mod but I am experiencing a CTD every time I use it. Its always about 300-500km out of port. I narrowed it down to Env Mod 3.1. I thought it was another mod I had installed but when I ran SH5 with Env Mod 3.1 only installed it did the same thing.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[SteelViking]

Howdy, I love this mod but I am experiencing a CTD every time I use it. Its always about 300-500km out of port. I narrowed it down to Env Mod 3.1. I thought it was another mod I had installed but when I ran SH5 with Env Mod 3.1 only installed it did the same thing.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I have been working on fixing the CTD issues lately. Where are you experiencing the CTD usually?

[zack]

the prob is not only the *.tga,i have ctd's with the stock *.tga and w_clear's *.cfg's too but not at the same points with his *.tga.

:dead:

[SteelViking]

the prob is not only the *.tga,i have ctd's with the stock *.tga and w_clear's *.cfg's too but not at the same points with his *.tga.

:dead:

Are you sure that those CTDs are coming from Env and not something else?

[stoppro]

yes-I am also still having ctd's with this and black "clouds" that come and go on the horizon.

[snoopy1177]

hello , having crashes with this mod too.

[snoopy1177]

but when i disable this mod and enable enviroment gold it works......
sorry for my bad english;)

[Wolfling04]

I have been working on fixing the CTD issues lately. Where are you experiencing the CTD usually?


Usually just as I enter the English Channel between France and England, also as I enter the North Sea from Kiel between Norway and Denmark (i think) and Last place I experience it is as soon as I get about 300-500km out of the second port you get assigned to after Kiel traveling a NW-N course (sorry I forget the name and im on my laptop currently) I will get the full details for ya later tonight

[SteelViking]

Thanks for the info Zack, those areas are the ones that I would expect CTDs to still be occurring. I am pretty sure that I know what the problem is, I just need to have some more testing done to be 100% positive. I don't want to do all the work for a fix until I know it will actually fix it. If anyone would like to the help, the thread about mod installation order has a fix for the seas around Denmark that I made. You could install that and see if you get CTD while traveling away from Kiel. Some have already reported that it fixed it.

[snoopy1177]

ok thanks i try it.

[Krauter]

Usually just as I enter the English Channel between France and England, also as I enter the North Sea from Kiel between Norway and Denmark (i think) and Last place I experience it is as soon as I get about 300-500km out of the second port you get assigned to after Kiel traveling a NW-N course (sorry I forget the name and im on my laptop currently) I will get the full details for ya later tonight

Look at the "Order of Mod Installation" thread and SteelViking posted a fix for the Skaagerak bug. (I was experiencing the same thing).

[SteelViking]

Look at the "Order of Mod Installation" thread and SteelViking posted a fix for the Skaagerak bug. (I was experiencing the same thing).

If that fix continues to prove successful as it has so far, I would be more than willing to fix the entire map. I just need to know for sure first, because it will take a good amount of work to do it.

By the way Krauter, you are more than welcome for the pictures, I just hope you are enjoying the interior mod better now that you have them all displaying properly.:salute:

[stoppro]

I had the fix installed with latest try but the same thing happen in the same areas everyone else seems to be having ctds.time compression does not seem a factor.

[SteelViking]

I had the fix installed with latest try but the same thing happen in the same areas everyone else seems to be having ctds.time compression does not seem a factor.

The fix I posted on the mod order thread? And were you in the immediate vicinity of Denmark when the CTD occurred? That fix is only designed to stop the CTDs around Denmark, nothing else.

[stoppro]

I was leaving breman on the way to norway when it ocurred.

[SteelViking]

I was leaving breman on the way to norway when it ocurred.

And, you were using what I posted on the last post on this page:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=173193&page=3

[stoppro]

S.V. yes i just doubled checked to be sure. it happen about 30k north of helgoland

[Krauter]

I have never had this happen to me around Heligoland. The only areas up to now are near Amsterdam (which was fixed in version 2.5 or something around there) and Denmark (which was fixed with the patch SV gave).

SV~ Thanks once again for all that. They look wonderfull! Still hunting for that enigma tribute though :arrgh!:

[SteelViking]

S.V. yes i just doubled checked to be sure. it happen about 30k north of helgoland

Can anyone else confirm that CTD still exists around Denmark with the fix I posted? I am not implying that you are wrong Stoppro. I just want to see how wide spread this problem really is.

[stoppro]

no problem I could be wrong what with all mod shuffling I have been doing,I am down to tdw 370 env3.1 your intieror mod and improved shadows.i'll head back up to murmazk. should i throw the evn fix in too-yes of course-stupid question.I'll let you know .

[SteelViking]

no problem I could be wrong what with all mod shuffling I have been doing,I am down to tdw 370 env3.1 your intieror mod and improved shadows.i'll head back up to murmazk. should i throw the evn fix in too-yes of course-stupid question.I'll let you know .

Ok, I look forward to hearing the results(fingers crossed and hoping all goes well). Thank you for testing by the way.

[Krauter]

When I did 15 run throughs of the area (re-loading a save numerous times) and running the area for 3 days at high TC, I never had anyproblems :)

[SteelViking]

When I did 15 run throughs of the area (re-loading a save numerous times) and running the area for 3 days at high TC, I never had anyproblems :)

Awesome!:yeah: I had not realized that you tested it that extensively. Ok, I think that sums it up. Going from frequent CTDs to none out of 15 is enough evidence for me. I will begin working on a fix for the whole map. It will take a little while though(probably a day or two) for me to do it. What the .tga needs is very tedious work(I am talking pixel by pixel out of 1080X540 pixels).

What I think is the problem, is even after I redid W_clear's climatezones.tga several months ago to fix the wide spread CTDs, I did not think anything about two climate zones touching each other that were not sequential. In other words, right now, it is possible to go from one climate zone, to another which is actually 2 steps away(for example from arctic to tropical in one jump). The reason I left it like that, is because it did not cause me to CTD(which it still doesn't, and never has nor does it cause W_clear to CTD). But, it would make sense that some folks' computers(hardware setups) may have a problem with this happening.

[stoppro]

well that's good I'll take his testing over mine anytime.still getting those black areas on the horizon though,but they go away after awhile.but no crash.good luck fixing it and thank you.

[SteelViking]

well that's good I'll take his testing over mine anytime.still getting those black areas on the horizon though,but they go away after awhile.but no crash.good luck fixing it and thank you.

You are welcome. I wish I could help you with the dark horizon problem, but you would have to talk directly to W_clear about that one. I would think that it is a shader problem. But, have you tried my mod for fixing sky banding? It replaces the base texture that gets rendered over the sky geometry. That may just fix your horizon problem.

[Madox58]

The 'Black Masses' sometimes seen is a known issue from SH3.
(Maybe SH4 also?)

SH5 may be a new version of the SH series.
But there's alot of info on the past versions that still apply.
I highly suggest you look at the past for many issues.

Re-inventing the wheel takes to long.

[Wolfling04]

Look at the "Order of Mod Installation" thread and SteelViking posted a fix for the Skaagerak bug. (I was experiencing the same thing).

The CTD's I was experiencing are with Env Mod 3.1 only installed thru JSGME. The more exact locations for the CTD I couldn't tell earlier is just out of Bremen traveling a NW course.

[stoppro]

s.v. yes i use your sky banding mod I just took it out for that one time test.It does clear up the sky very well.

[zack]

at the eastcoast near new york i have ctd's too.
i hope this mod works sometime. :88)

[SeaTurtle]

I have a CTD too in the manche channel (between france and uk) sorry for my bad english. But, it's not always crashing so I can still play.

But I have another problem, is the sea that reset itself, quite often... for example I have bad weather, heavy clouds, rain, rough sea... and suddenly everything becomes clear, no clouds, calm sea, and in couple of minuts/seconds the weather come back. It's quite surprising and unrealistic for the crew :D

[TheBeast]

I have a CTD too in the manche channel (between france and uk) sorry for my bad english. But, it's not always crashing so I can still play.

But I have another problem, is the sea that reset itself, quite often... for example I have bad weather, heavy clouds, rain, rough sea... and suddenly everything becomes clear, no clouds, calm sea, and in couple of minuts/seconds the weather come back. It's quite surprising and unrealistic for the crew :D

This sounds like a bad ClimateZones.tga

[303_Michcich]

is it possible to install Ail`s Smoke 1.7 on top of Env 3.1 as I believe Ail`s smoke effect was better...

[TopcatWA]

Will give this a try.

[Sudo]

FYI Steel. I'm running your possible CTD fix now. I was crashing in Skagerrak and sometimes close to Heligoland. After applying your fix everything seems kosher now. Will keep you informed. :salute:

[Krauter]

Why is my sky completely dark and it is 12 o'clock January on the American seaboard just east of Norfolk.. it is nice and sunny out at 20:40 though..

[SteelViking]

FYI Steel. I'm running your possible CTD fix now. I was crashing in Skagerrak and sometimes close to Heligoland. After applying your fix everything seems kosher now. Will keep you informed. :salute:

Good to hear! Now that I have the patch for my interior mod finished, I will switch over to working on the fix for the whole map for Env3.1. When I am finished with that, I have got to make another attempt at improving the in game shadows while still using less system resources(it is really bugging me how many folks get FPS drop).

[Sudo]

Good to hear! Now that I have the patch for my interior mod finished, I will switch over to working on the fix for the whole map for Env3.1. When I am finished with that, I have got to make another attempt at improving the in game shadows while still using less system resources(it is really bugging me how many folks get FPS drop).

And just so you know I've been playing for round 3 hours now and not a single CTD while using your fix. :up: I'd have to say you nailed it. :salute:

[Krauter]

Congrats on 1000th post steel :D

[SteelViking]

And just so you know I've been playing for round 3 hours now and not a single CTD while using your fix. :up: I'd have to say you nailed it. :salute:

Awesome!:yeah:

Congrats on 1000th post steel :D

:haha:Thanks:woot:

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Why is my sky completely dark and it is 12 o'clock January on the American seaboard just east of Norfolk.. it is nice and sunny out at 20:40 though..

It's because of your longitudinal distance from home. Your clock stays at home port time so as you travel further away it gets out of synch. It was a pretty common/realistic issue to deal with in SH4 when your sub was set to Pearl Harbor time and yet you were patrolling past the dateline and a couple time zones over in Japan.

[reaper7]

It's because of your longitudinal distance from home. Your clock stays at home port time so as you travel further away it gets out of synch. It was a pretty common/realistic issue to deal with in SH4 when your sub was set to Pearl Harbor time and yet you were patrolling past the dateline and a couple time zones over in Japan.


Thanks Capt Jack Harkness, I was unaware of that Issue.
Never occured to me that time zones were present in the Silent Hunter series. :DL

[Krauter]

Never really occured to me either :hmmm: Thanks for the help though :) Is it possible to set the clocks to the timezone you're in?


Thanks Capt Jack Harkness, I was unaware of that Issue.
Never occured to me that time zones were present in the Silent Hunter series. :DL

I don't think they actually implemented but rather it was a side effect of W_clears impressive work

[SteelViking]

Ok, I have done a fix for the whole map for Env3.1. Hopefully this will totally stop the CTDs. I would like for anyone who can to do a little bit more testing to make sure that this works. Then I will ask W_clear to include in another version.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?2378t2pawba5zgc

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Never really occured to me either :hmmm: Thanks for the help though :) Is it possible to set the clocks to the timezone you're in?


Now there's something I never thought of! In SH4 I always just learned to cope with the difference... Maybe if TDW has some spare time he could put together a script for it, perhaps even with a label for what zone you're in...

[W_clear]

Ok, I have done a fix for the whole map for Env3.1. Hopefully this will totally stop the CTDs. I would like for anyone who can to do a little bit more testing to make sure that this works. Then I will ask W_clear to include in another version.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?2378t2pawba5zgc
In fact, your previous ClimateZones.tga was perfect, not more than 1024 times the compression of time, it will not return the desktop。

[SteelViking]

In fact, your previous ClimateZones.tga was perfect, not more than 1024 times the compression of time, it will not return the desktop。

I never got CTD with the last one I did either. But, since some folks were still getting CTD when at high compression, I took another look at it. The thing that was causing it was that in a few places I had left two climate zones that were not sequential touching. In other words in some places, I had left arctic touching sub tropical and similar situations.

I think with this ClimateZones.tga that no one will get CTDs anywhere at any time compression(even when greater than 1024). Several folks have tested it, and the fix works, but I would not mind even more people trying it just to make absolutely sure. W_clear, you are more than welcome to include this new ClimateZones.tga in any future versions.

I would also like to apologize to everyone for not simply fixing this the first time. I simply had no way to know that it would cause problems since it does not give me CTD(and I routinely run at 2048 TC).

[Wolfling04]

Hey Steel, just tried your most current fix for the climate zones.

At TC of 2048 I CTD'ed between Dover and Calais.

At TC of 1024 I did not receive a CTD, although I hit a major lag spike and dropped from 65FPS to 8FPS, but I'm sure that's because of the ships in the straight.

More to Come

Wolf

http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/102390075-4.jpg



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[SteelViking]

Hey Steel, just tried your most current fix for the climate zones.

At TC of 2048 I CTD'ed between Dover and Calais.

At TC of 1024 I did not receive a CTD, although I hit a major lag spike and dropped from 65FPS to 8FPS, but I'm sure that's because of the ships in the straight.

More to Come

Wolf

Thank you Wolfling04, I will check the area out, and clean it up even further. I am also thinking that if you go through too many climate zone changes to quickly that you may CTD at high compression. So the coastal zones may have to get a bit more work.

[Wolfling04]

No problem Viking, glad to help, and the low FPS were like 10 patrol boats and an escorted convoy all in that area.

[snoopy1177]

hello, still have ctd when i return from patrol and want to start a new one.
i have the fix installed.:wah:

[SteelViking]

hello, still have ctd when i return from patrol and want to start a new one.
i have the fix installed.:wah:

Please specify exactly where and how it is occurring.

[rascal101]

Just be thankful you're not an axolotl, they live in caves and never see the sun - there are many other animals and insects who live like this, I have not heard of any plants that live in caves because they need to photosynthesise - Recently a species of algae was discovered living around volcanic vents at the bottom of some of the deepest mid ocean trenches on the planet

I would hasten to add though that relativly few Axolotl's play Silent Hunter 5 and there is no known instances of algae playing computer games

Best Regards
Rascal

Why is my sky completely dark and it is 12 o'clock January on the American seaboard just east of Norfolk.. it is nice and sunny out at 20:40 though..

[snoopy1177]

Please specify exactly where and how it is occurring.


i mounted the mod, made a new career and everithing worked fine, i return to base after i finished my patrol an then i talk to the officer ta get a mission, after that i click on start a new patrol. at that time it crashes to the desktop.
this happens with or without the fix mounted.
sorry for my bad english:)

greetings

[SteelViking]

i mounted the mod, made a new career and everithing worked fine, i return to base after i finished my patrol an then i talk to the officer ta get a mission, after that i click on start a new patrol. at that time it crashes to the desktop.
this happens with or without the fix mounted.
sorry for my bad english:)

greetings

That does not sound like it is coming from this mod. Please uninstall just the CTD fix and Env3.1 and try again. If it works, please tell me what port you were in when the CTDs were occurring and I will take a look at it.

[snoopy1177]

That does not sound like it is coming from this mod. Please uninstall just the CTD fix and Env3.1 and try again. If it works, please tell me what port you were in when the CTDs were occurring and I will take a look at it.

i m in wilhelmshafen and without the mod and fix i have no crash

thx

[Fansadox]

I keep getting CTD's with 3.1patch over 3.0 even when i download the 3.1 complete package you posted i CTD.

When i disable your mod the CTD's are gone :( Man i love the mod but the game is simply not playeble with it....

Since i had to reinstall the game i started a new game so my experience with the CTD's are all around the coast of england. I tried the new climatezone.tga file and not setting TC higher then 1024 but still it CTD's.

[Deimos01]

I also get random CTDs with Env 3.1 installed with and without the fix. I tried to pin it done to specific areas but it just goes whenever.

[PL_Andrev]

http://i26.tinypic.com/ju935u.jpg
Environmental 3.0 MOD replace all the Environmental MOD
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Bug is spotted.
In 'Pedestal' historic mission the Italian BB have no smoke:
(image with high-contrast to show a smoke).
Used Env. 3.0
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5972/smokejh.jpg

_______________________

At this mission when I used stock environment (3 tests), my sub was attacked by 50 enemy aircrafts (my submarine was sunk with TDW's IRAI mod). I install Env 3.0 mod, and at this mission I saw only one aircraft attacked Italian taskforce... the weather looks better with Env 3.0 mod...
:hmmm:

[303_Michcich]

Is is possible to use AIl`s Smoke 1.7 with Env 3.1 as Ail seems to be doing rahter better job in terms of smoke ?

[eon850aye]

Yes you can, I'm having no conflicts between the 2 mods.

[609_Avatar]

Just found out that the CTD issues that I'm having are also related to this mod as I couldn't load one save without a CTD and loading a previous one and getting to the same area (British Coastal Waters Mission) it would CTD. SO I disabled this mod and was able to load the previous save that would CTD and then when going to the area where it would CTD after an earlier save gave no issues. So I feel it was definitely related to this mod. I was just cruising along on the Nav mapp using 1024 TC and CTD every time in the same area- off the eastern shores of Britain. Hope the info helps as it's a nice looking mod. One other thing I noticed, and I'm assuming it's related to this mod (haven't been back to port yet so I can't see if it's gone now that I've disabled the mod) is I will see a bunch of brown smoke/fog all over the right side of the port area when I have a ship or two in front of me with smoke. I'll also occasionally see some brown smoke dots randomly appear as I pan around. It may also be due to graphics settings but I thought I'd mentioned it in case it isn't.

[SteelViking]

Yes, it is common to experience CTD when in coastal zones. I have fixed all the CTD problems in open oceans, but I still have yet to fix the coastal areas. I may simply get rid of coastal changes, and go with a simpler setup which would be more reliable. Just be patient folks, a fix is coming....

[snoopy1177]

Yes, it is common to experience CTD when in coastal zones. I have fixed all the CTD problems in open oceans, but I still have yet to fix the coastal areas. I may simply get rid of coastal changes, and go with a simpler setup which would be more reliable. Just be patient folks, a fix is coming....
very nice thank you:salute:

[609_Avatar]

Yes, it is common to experience CTD when in coastal zones. I have fixed all the CTD problems in open oceans, but I still have yet to fix the coastal areas. I may simply get rid of coastal changes, and go with a simpler setup which would be more reliable. Just be patient folks, a fix is coming....

Ah, okay, you're already aware of this stuff then. Cool. Sorry to add to anything here, I just received the game as a gift a couple of days ago so I'm new to many of these mods and haven't read all of the pages for each of them. I'm patient :D, take your time and keep up the great work!

[SteelViking]

Ah, okay, you're already aware of this stuff then. Cool. Sorry to add to anything here, I just received the game as a gift a couple of days ago so I'm new to many of these mods and haven't read all of the pages for each of them. I'm patient :D, take your time and keep up the great work!

No problem. In the mean time, I have already put out a partial CTD fix for this mod, I think it is one or two pages back. It should take care of about 50% of the the CTD occurrences.

[PL_Andrev]

Is is possible to use AIl`s Smoke 1.7 with Env 3.1 as Ail seems to be doing rahter better job in terms of smoke ?

Strange...
Tested:
Environment mod 3.0
AilSmoke 1.7
EnhancedFunnelSmoke
...and in each ot these mods BB Littorio class (historic Pedestal) has no smoke...
:06:

[W_clear]

Environmental 3.2 MOD for SH5_1.2

1. Adjust the color all of the environment.
2. Adjust moon to the more dark .
3. Adjust smoke more black .
4. Adjust sun to the more bright.
5. Adjust the wake of the color again.
6. Remove wave's BUG(Waves have stopped).

Just install with JSGME. W_clear2010.8.17
http://i35.tinypic.com/119nwab.jpg

[Krauter]

Does this update incorporate the fixes made by SV? Just wondering because I just crashed while leaving Brest...

[W_clear]

Does this update incorporate the fixes made by SV? Just wondering because I just crashed while leaving Brest...
yes

[Krauter]

Cheers,

Man you guys really add style to this game :D

Thanks for all your hard work W_clear

[Krauter]

Sorry for two things:

One for the double post.

Two for the Nitpicking.. there is some weird action going on on my horizon.. it looks almost like I am close to land.. it goes like Water, then odd darker coloured Sky, and then regular Sky.. what is this :hmmm:

[Ragtag]

Nice with an update but this one is worse again when it comes to CTD. It crashes as soon as i get close to the english coast. I used SV's climatezone with ENV 3.1 and it didn't crash half as much as it does now.

[Frantic8882]

It didn´t crash at all with SV fix and 3.1 so far. Now I´m worried.I´m getting black flickering though after entering my game. It stops after a short while but it always comes on after loading my file (usually when looking at scenes very different in their lighting effects). I get ctd after being in port and loading to get on a new cruise sometimes / and very seldom in action situations trying to reload after a fail attempt to attack a vessel. Sorry for maybe off-topic, I am just not sure where these instabilities come from. Theres no game w/o env.mod though!:yeah:

Will post system if needed

[stoppro]

Installed 3.2 froze one hour out of lorient on 1tc reloaded tried again same thing. removed 3.2 I'm running going on 3hours now some things up with this mod .hope there is someway to fix it . I miss it when it's not there.

[303_Michcich]

any fix to CTD - it`s unplayable in current state...

[ChainReaction]

First off, great mod, it makes the game look so much better ;)

Second, I'm experiencing a lot of CTD after I installed the mod, although I did just install the fix, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll let you know if it fixed it.

Also, is there is a way to make the nights less dark, because it's very beautiful at night, and it adds atmophere, but it's really too dark to see anything (I can barely make out my own sub). I can crank up the gamma in my settings, but that just makes everything brighter (including the menus etc)

Greetings

EDIT: The fix isn't working (I think I installed the one for version 3.1 ^^)

[SteelViking]

First off, great mod, it makes the game look so much better ;)

Second, I'm experiencing a lot of CTD after I installed the mod, although I did just install the fix, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll let you know if it fixed it.

Also, is there is a way to make the nights less dark, because it's very beautiful at night, and it adds atmophere, but it's really too dark to see anything (I can barely make out my own sub). I can crank up the gamma in my settings, but that just makes everything brighter (including the menus etc)

Greetings

EDIT: The fix isn't working (I think I installed the one for version 3.1 ^^)

I need to know what geographical location you are experiencing the CTDs in. I have been compiling a list of areas which need more work to stop the CTDs.

[ChainReaction]

I've only been around Britland :D, so (based on the .jpg from the mod) envcolors tempera?

I sometimes see ice on the boats though, is that normal (cool touch by the way ;D).
Crashes seem to occur when I'm exiting TC, (like when I'm going at 2k compression, and then I close the map) it might crash.
Another time it might crash (rather call it a freeze) is when I try to load a game, then I have to ctrl+alt+del and close the game.
Sometimes I just randomly crashes.

I hope some of this is helpful to you, because the mod is gorgeous, and I'd hate to have to remove it. Is there maybe a previous, stable version I could use?

Greetings

[SteelViking]

I've only been around Britland :D, so (based on the .jpg from the mod) envcolors tempera?

I sometimes see ice on the boats though, is that normal (cool touch by the way ;D).
Crashes seem to occur when I'm exiting TC, (like when I'm going at 2k compression, and then I close the map) it might crash.
Another time it might crash (rather call it a freeze) is when I try to load a game, then I have to ctrl+alt+del and close the game.
Sometimes I just randomly crashes.

I hope some of this is helpful to you, because the mod is gorgeous, and I'd hate to have to remove it. Is there maybe a previous, stable version I could use?

Greetings

Sadly, no there is not a stable version to be had. Your information sinks up with other bits and pieces I have gotten before that the coast of Britain is a problem area. I am thinking of taking out the coastal change zones entirely which should eliminate the last of the CTDs people are getting.

[Schultzy]

Just to add that I have just had a crash too. I was about 1 day (of game time) out of Bremen in the Happy Times campaign. I disengaged TC (backspace) and the 'Silent Hunter has stopped working' box appeared. Don't know if that is of any diagnostic help, but thought I'd mention it.

Oh and this is the first time I've used 3.2 as I was finishing up a previous patrol on 3.1 before upgrading in port.