New writings from Archimedes revealed

Yahoshua · 08-07-06, 08:01 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060805/...s_manuscript_8

Cool stuff. Seems Greek society was more advanced than was thought to be. MAybe the same could be said of other ancient nations. Like the Romans, Persians, and the Israelites (Hezekiah tunnel).

TteFAboB · 08-07-06, 08:31 AM

The Persians were extremely advanced. They are part of the birth of civilization, the greeks took on from where they left. They also had a ridiculously gigantic amount of philosophers. And then came Islam, twice.

Most likely, if Persia had never fallen to Islam, which would've required also for other people around to resist assimilation, it would've rivalled Europe or even lead the way to civilization. We'd belong to the "Persian civilization", not "Western". Europe would have to play catch-up with them, since they'd be so far ahead because of all the years of advantage.

However, many contemporary and modern scholars choose to ignore this reality and pretend they were all primitive people from a dark and ugly past and that all modern advances are the result of distancing ourselves from our origins, that it's necessary to forget our history, to un-learn to learn, to deconstruct to construct. Otherwise, you wouldn't listen to their speech of building a "new world", you wouldn't accept when a politican says the best person to take care of children are not their parents, but the state.

STEED · 08-07-06, 09:03 AM

Too Late I posted that a few days ago. :p

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96500

08-07-06, 08:01 AM	#1
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	New writings from Archimedes revealed http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060805/...s_manuscript_8 Cool stuff. Seems Greek society was more advanced than was thought to be. MAybe the same could be said of other ancient nations. Like the Romans, Persians, and the Israelites (Hezekiah tunnel). __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

08-07-06, 08:31 AM	#2
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The Persians were extremely advanced. They are part of the birth of civilization, the greeks took on from where they left. They also had a ridiculously gigantic amount of philosophers. And then came Islam, twice. Most likely, if Persia had never fallen to Islam, which would've required also for other people around to resist assimilation, it would've rivalled Europe or even lead the way to civilization. We'd belong to the "Persian civilization", not "Western". Europe would have to play catch-up with them, since they'd be so far ahead because of all the years of advantage. However, many contemporary and modern scholars choose to ignore this reality and pretend they were all primitive people from a dark and ugly past and that all modern advances are the result of distancing ourselves from our origins, that it's necessary to forget our history, to un-learn to learn, to deconstruct to construct. Otherwise, you wouldn't listen to their speech of building a "new world", you wouldn't accept when a politican says the best person to take care of children are not their parents, but the state. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

08-07-06, 09:03 AM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Too Late I posted that a few days ago. :p http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96500 __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!