ARRRRggghhh S.O.S SH3 Mod in distress.... sinking.

JU_88 · 08-04-06, 09:59 AM

hey guys,
Im still working hard on a mod to produce more aircraft for Sh3, Im having a really rough time with it. I am very happy with the models I have worked on so far, but im having problems "skinning" the aircraft, Its not so much creating a skin thats the problem is creating a sensible 2d layout to use as a template.

I know there are several ways of doing this, but im not sure which is the best way for a beginner like me, Ive spent all morning messing about with Max'x UWV unwrapper and its quite tricky to use!
Some one (I think Sergbuto) sugested I use a progy called deepUV - but It dont come cheap. and I cant find a warez copy anywhere (yes Its not nice - but I am that desperate)

I would be really gratful if some one could give me a rough guide on how they do it, in a few simplified steps. Im using 3ds Max 7 and photoshop.

At the moment im completely stuck, I really dont think i can go any further with out help. I dont have that much free time on my hands at the moment.
If I can just make some darn templates, I can appeal to the community for help with creating in skins, allowing me to concontrate on the 3d.

Aside from skinning the aircraft some of them need additional gunnery, I need to make a 57mm mollins cannon for the moquito at the very least, and hopefully some 20mm cannons as well.
Im doing about 5 to 7 planes so its a quite alot of work, Im almost cracking up here please help if can!

I was hoping I would have something ready so that i could submit the mod to the GW team for the next release, but its begining to look unlikely it will be done in time.

heres what I have so far
Whitley

hudson and ventura, (ive made both.)

mosquito mollins

Im now working on a beufighter will also make an Anson and Halifax.
I had planned to do more (B-17/ B-18/ B-25/ Wildcat/ beaufort) but I would need more people working on it.

enaceo · 08-04-06, 10:03 AM

Can't really help you ,but I have to say those are some nice models!Hope you will also make the ones you need help with.The only modeling i have done is with games like Counter-Strike so I can't really help here

CB.. · 08-04-06, 11:52 AM

Just to let you know it's not just you!!
i made a Blohm und Voss Bv 138...skinning it proved to be some sort of fruedian nightmare..never even got close ...i've built and skinned dozens of aircraft for flight simulators and i couldn't even begin to understand what the hell was going on with SH3 texture mapping lol!! abandoned it as completely over my head!!

WHHHOOOOSH AND DOUBLE WHOOOSH AINT IN IT!!!
i tried every trick in the book that i knew and even invented a few just for the sake of making absolutely sure it was out side my ability to achieve....not a chance in hell
the really strange and annoying part was that normally --if your persistant enough--you finally beging to understand what is happening and can find ways to make it work...in this case after a weeks solid hard core trail and error..i was no wiser at the end than i was when i made the first stab at it...hadn't learn't a thing..other than there is some sort of multiple redundancy thing going on where by the model will attempt to use a texture file even if you have removed that texture from the model file dat and completely removed any reference to it with a hex editor...(i made a few attempts trying to adapt an existing model rather than making a brand new one from scratch..thinking i could repaint the texture file on the adapted model file and cheat my way past the issue by utilising the allready existing texture mapping..doing a repaint to finish the job..lol must have been mad...not a chance...

weird beyond belief..!!

nice models tho keep trying maybe you'll get further than i did..

bigboywooly · 08-04-06, 01:58 PM

JU 88 you have a PM

08-04-06, 09:59 AM	#1
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	ARRRRggghhh S.O.S SH3 Mod in distress.... sinking. hey guys, Im still working hard on a mod to produce more aircraft for Sh3, Im having a really rough time with it. I am very happy with the models I have worked on so far, but im having problems "skinning" the aircraft, Its not so much creating a skin thats the problem is creating a sensible 2d layout to use as a template. I know there are several ways of doing this, but im not sure which is the best way for a beginner like me, Ive spent all morning messing about with Max'x UWV unwrapper and its quite tricky to use! Some one (I think Sergbuto) sugested I use a progy called deepUV - but It dont come cheap. and I cant find a warez copy anywhere (yes Its not nice - but I am that desperate) I would be really gratful if some one could give me a rough guide on how they do it, in a few simplified steps. Im using 3ds Max 7 and photoshop. At the moment im completely stuck, I really dont think i can go any further with out help. I dont have that much free time on my hands at the moment. If I can just make some darn templates, I can appeal to the community for help with creating in skins, allowing me to concontrate on the 3d. Aside from skinning the aircraft some of them need additional gunnery, I need to make a 57mm mollins cannon for the moquito at the very least, and hopefully some 20mm cannons as well. Im doing about 5 to 7 planes so its a quite alot of work, Im almost cracking up here please help if can! I was hoping I would have something ready so that i could submit the mod to the GW team for the next release, but its begining to look unlikely it will be done in time. heres what I have so far Whitley hudson and ventura, (ive made both.) mosquito mollins Im now working on a beufighter will also make an Anson and Halifax. I had planned to do more (B-17/ B-18/ B-25/ Wildcat/ beaufort) but I would need more people working on it. Last edited by JU_88; 08-04-06 at 10:02 AM.

08-04-06, 10:03 AM	#2
enaceo XO Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 401 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Can't really help you ,but I have to say those are some nice models!Hope you will also make the ones you need help with.The only modeling i have done is with games like Counter-Strike so I can't really help here __________________ Came back after a long time ...ahoy mates!

08-04-06, 11:52 AM	#3
CB.. Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,278 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just to let you know it's not just you!! i made a Blohm und Voss Bv 138...skinning it proved to be some sort of fruedian nightmare..never even got close ...i've built and skinned dozens of aircraft for flight simulators and i couldn't even begin to understand what the hell was going on with SH3 texture mapping lol!! abandoned it as completely over my head!! WHHHOOOOSH AND DOUBLE WHOOOSH AINT IN IT!!! i tried every trick in the book that i knew and even invented a few just for the sake of making absolutely sure it was out side my ability to achieve....not a chance in hell the really strange and annoying part was that normally --if your persistant enough--you finally beging to understand what is happening and can find ways to make it work...in this case after a weeks solid hard core trail and error..i was no wiser at the end than i was when i made the first stab at it...hadn't learn't a thing..other than there is some sort of multiple redundancy thing going on where by the model will attempt to use a texture file even if you have removed that texture from the model file dat and completely removed any reference to it with a hex editor...(i made a few attempts trying to adapt an existing model rather than making a brand new one from scratch..thinking i could repaint the texture file on the adapted model file and cheat my way past the issue by utilising the allready existing texture mapping..doing a repaint to finish the job..lol must have been mad...not a chance... weird beyond belief..!! nice models tho keep trying maybe you'll get further than i did.. __________________ the world's tinyiest sh3 supermod- and other SH3/SH2 stuff http://www.ebort2.co.uk/ The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B.Yeats Last edited by CB..; 08-04-06 at 12:10 PM.

08-04-06, 01:58 PM	#4
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	JU 88 you have a PM __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41