watch crew visual ranges

Krupp · 12-26-05, 03:57 PM

I use IUB 1.02 and it gives longer visual ranges. My watch crew can spot targets at the range of 20 000 meters in clear weather (I can see the target from about 17 000 meters in the game). Day or night. I don't mind if that happens in daylight, it is possible to see targets with mast height of 20-25 meters at distance around 20 - 23 km's from height of a U-Boat bridge. Even longer if there is smoke from the funnel(s).

What is quite annoying is that my crew can do this in darkness too. That's something I'd like to change. I have tried to play with minitweaker without a result. Can the night vision for the crew be changed somehow and what would be "realistic" range for that.

Thanks

Krupp

Marhkimov · 12-26-05, 04:04 PM

mini tweeker --> sensors.dat --> Visual --> PreciseRange / MaxRange

for comparison, stock SH3 is 6000 (PreciseRange) and 8000 (MaxRange)

IUB settings are higher, therefore the crew has longer spotting abilities.

Krupp · 12-26-05, 04:08 PM

In sensors.dat file, the "visual" max range is 17000 meters and they still can see up to 20 000 meters. There is no min range at all or then I'm not looking from the right place.

Oh,You edited....need to recheck tweaker...

Krupp · 12-26-05, 04:11 PM

Precise range is 15500 and max range is 17000. Like I said, they can still see targets from 20 000 meters. Also, how can I change the night visual range? Is there something in scene_dat file I should change?

Marhkimov · 12-26-05, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krupp

Precise range is 15500 and max range is 17000. Like I said, they can still see targets from 20 000 meters.

I'm not sure what's going on with this. Myself, I have it set for 6000/8000, and my crew has never spotted anything beyond 8000.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krupp

Also, how can I change the night visual range?

No one is sure yet. Perhaps we'll never figure this out... Though I am still hoping.

Krupp · 12-26-05, 04:14 PM

Ok, thanks M

I'll keep looking and trying....

Marhkimov · 12-26-05, 04:19 PM

You can try messing around with scene.dat, but I'm not totally sure what it would do... But it might work.

I'll tell you that Ubi did not make things simple enough. A few simple sliders or config files would have been better suited for such a complicated game. Geez...

Redwine · 12-26-05, 04:33 PM

Sorry Krupp, did you removed the renamed file ?

Please verify if you had removed the renamed file created by Mini Tweaker program from the working folder.
Just move it to another folder and try a new time.....

If not try editing manually the value :

The values you mus to edit are into sensors.dat file, in the line :

06e5d8 , use a hexeditor, just edit the value to adjust the visual spoting capabilities at your pleasure.

In example :

06e5d8 00 40 9c 46 MaxRange..@.F > 20000 meters

06e5d8 00 60 ea 46 MaxRange..Â´Ã©F > 30000 meters

Krupp · 12-26-05, 05:27 PM

@Redwine

No, I didn't remove any files. I just edited new max and precise range values via tweaker, but couldn't see any changes in the game. I use sh commander and I did rollback before. The ranges are acceptable for daylight use, but at night

. But still it's better than original ranges IMO.

Heh, I have never tried to do any hex editing manually and it (instructions in tweaker program) looks damn difficult.

Marhkimov · 12-26-05, 05:45 PM

What Redwine is saying is that you have to remove the backup file that mini tweeker creates.

Just look in the Library folder and remove "Copy of Sensors.dat" file. You MUST remove it for your changes to be applied. You CANNOT just rename it and leave it there.

Krupp · 12-26-05, 05:54 PM

Dumb me!

There it is (was). Vielen danke!

Edit: So, this might be the same with all the rest tweaked (copy of ) files like depth charges, naval mines, hedgehogs etc.? remove them from the library?. Just to make sure dumb me gets it right this time....

Marhkimov · 12-26-05, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krupp

Edit: So, this might be the same with all the rest tweaked (copy of ) files like depth charges, naval mines, hedgehogs etc.? remove them from the library?. Just to make sure dumb me gets it right this time....

This is usually the case for any type of DAT file in the Library folder. It's probably a good habit to start moving every backup file to a new location.

12-26-05, 03:57 PM	#1
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	watch crew visual ranges I use IUB 1.02 and it gives longer visual ranges. My watch crew can spot targets at the range of 20 000 meters in clear weather (I can see the target from about 17 000 meters in the game). Day or night. I don't mind if that happens in daylight, it is possible to see targets with mast height of 20-25 meters at distance around 20 - 23 km's from height of a U-Boat bridge. Even longer if there is smoke from the funnel(s). What is quite annoying is that my crew can do this in darkness too. That's something I'd like to change. I have tried to play with minitweaker without a result. Can the night vision for the crew be changed somehow and what would be "realistic" range for that. Thanks Krupp __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-26-05, 04:04 PM	#2
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	mini tweeker --> sensors.dat --> Visual --> PreciseRange / MaxRange for comparison, stock SH3 is 6000 (PreciseRange) and 8000 (MaxRange) IUB settings are higher, therefore the crew has longer spotting abilities. __________________ It takes two to tango

12-26-05, 04:08 PM	#3
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	In sensors.dat file, the "visual" max range is 17000 meters and they still can see up to 20 000 meters. There is no min range at all or then I'm not looking from the right place. Oh,You edited....need to recheck tweaker... __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-26-05, 04:11 PM	#4
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Precise range is 15500 and max range is 17000. Like I said, they can still see targets from 20 000 meters. Also, how can I change the night visual range? Is there something in scene_dat file I should change? __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-26-05, 04:14 PM	#6
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, thanks M I'll keep looking and trying.... __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-26-05, 04:19 PM	#7
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You can try messing around with scene.dat, but I'm not totally sure what it would do... But it might work. I'll tell you that Ubi did not make things simple enough. A few simple sliders or config files would have been better suited for such a complicated game. Geez... __________________ It takes two to tango

12-26-05, 04:33 PM	#8
Redwine Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Martin de los Andes, Neuquen, , Argentina. Posts: 1,962 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Sorry Krupp, did you removed the renamed file ? Please verify if you had removed the renamed file created by Mini Tweaker program from the working folder. Just move it to another folder and try a new time..... If not try editing manually the value : The values you mus to edit are into sensors.dat file, in the line : 06e5d8 , use a hexeditor, just edit the value to adjust the visual spoting capabilities at your pleasure. In example : 06e5d8 00 40 9c 46 MaxRange..@.F > 20000 meters 06e5d8 00 60 ea 46 MaxRange..Â´Ã©F > 30000 meters __________________ . "SH III and SH IV Mods" "Manual TDC Tutorial" "SH2 Downloads Selection"

12-26-05, 05:27 PM	#9
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	@Redwine No, I didn't remove any files. I just edited new max and precise range values via tweaker, but couldn't see any changes in the game. I use sh commander and I did rollback before. The ranges are acceptable for daylight use, but at night . But still it's better than original ranges IMO. Heh, I have never tried to do any hex editing manually and it (instructions in tweaker program) looks damn difficult. __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."

12-26-05, 05:45 PM	#10
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What Redwine is saying is that you have to remove the backup file that mini tweeker creates. Just look in the Library folder and remove "Copy of Sensors.dat" file. You MUST remove it for your changes to be applied. You CANNOT just rename it and leave it there. __________________ It takes two to tango

12-26-05, 05:54 PM	#11
Krupp Weps Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 351 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dumb me! There it is (was). Vielen danke! Edit: So, this might be the same with all the rest tweaked (copy of ) files like depth charges, naval mines, hedgehogs etc.? remove them from the library?. Just to make sure dumb me gets it right this time.... __________________ "Gentlemen, we have no choice. Total engagement. Die with dignity."