who will win?

Kapitan · 12-06-05, 04:20 AM

American Ticonderoga versus Russian Kirov

be intresting to see the views here

so who would win?

and theres no correct answer either

XabbaRus · 12-06-05, 11:22 AM

Tico as I reckon Kirov would have broken down before engagement

Oberon · 12-06-05, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Tico as I reckon Kirov would have broken down before engagement

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Kapitan · 12-06-05, 12:35 PM

lol i like that either break down or get this message

Quote:

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diver · 12-06-05, 08:22 PM

Tico, it could fend off attack from a kirov with AEGIs and then slot kirov with a few harpoons, might not sink the bugger but it would put it out of action.

gdogghenrikson · 12-06-05, 09:00 PM

I have no clue so I voted for the underdog

Hellcat · 12-06-05, 09:20 PM

Not really a far poll see as the two were built for different roles. Though I'd have to say Ticonderoga if there was to be a slugfest.

kiwi_2005 · 12-06-05, 11:43 PM

I too really have no clue when it comes to ships and sometimes subs!

But...

Kirov ALL DA WAY

bradclark1 · 12-07-05, 12:07 AM

I voted Ticonderoga because I'm American and you know how they are.
Everything American is the best!

Kapitan · 12-07-05, 02:34 AM

it would take 11 harpoons to take this kirov out (american quoted) the kirov has three types of SAM missiles all working independantly not to mention the CIWS system so around 1 in 50 harpoons would get threw (offical statistic quoted USN)

the ticos air defence system consists only of SM-2 which couldnt shoot down numerous (about 12 or 14) SS-N-19 ship wreck missiles and one ship wreck could put an aircraft carrier out of commission (not sink it mission kill)

harpoons are so dinky they would litteraly bounce off the hull the Exocet you stand more chance but again it would take a fair few.

Kirov has the upper hand with missile range all he would have to do is send up a helo to link the tico's position then fire SS-N-19's at it the missile will find the target by its self.

only missile more powerful than SS-N-19 is the SS-N-22 sunburn and thats carrier by the sovremenny's

Terrax · 12-07-05, 09:39 AM

I voted for the Kirov. I read the The Dictionary of Modern War by Edward Luttwak and Stuart L. Koehl, which is like an encyclopedia for everything to do with the military. Detailed stats, on subs, ships, aircraft, tanks, missiles, ect and their capabilities. I voted for the Kirov. The book was written in 1990, and since then Tico have advanced and the Peter the Great is the only Kirov that is still seaworthy. But as for a 1 on 1 battle, the Kirov would win. The Kirov is classified by the west as a battle cruiser because it has such a powerful array of weapons. The Shipwrecks are supersonics missiles and would spend less time in the interception envelope, and also have much larger warheads than the much slower (and easier to shoot down) Harpoons.

I also tested this with Harpoon 2002. The Harpoon community puts an enormous (near fanatical) amount of work in making sure the data on everything in the game is kept up to date and realistic. The Kirov won every time.

View Poll Results: Who would win
Tico	11	40.74%
Kirov / Orlan	16	59.26%
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12-06-05, 04:20 AM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	who will win? American Ticonderoga versus Russian Kirov be intresting to see the views here so who would win? and theres no correct answer either __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-06-05, 11:22 AM	#2
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Tico as I reckon Kirov would have broken down before engagement __________________

12-06-05, 09:00 PM	#6
gdogghenrikson Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 978 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I have no clue so I voted for the underdog __________________ And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.

12-06-05, 09:20 PM	#7
Hellcat Ensign Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 224 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Not really a far poll see as the two were built for different roles. Though I'd have to say Ticonderoga if there was to be a slugfest. __________________ "readiness is only accomplished when the need for it is over"

12-06-05, 08:22 PM	#5
diver Engineer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 213 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tico, it could fend off attack from a kirov with AEGIs and then slot kirov with a few harpoons, might not sink the bugger but it would put it out of action.

12-06-05, 11:43 PM	#8
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	I too really have no clue when it comes to ships and sometimes subs! But... Kirov ALL DA WAY __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

12-07-05, 12:07 AM	#9
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I voted Ticonderoga because I'm American and you know how they are. Everything American is the best!

12-07-05, 02:34 AM	#10
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	it would take 11 harpoons to take this kirov out (american quoted) the kirov has three types of SAM missiles all working independantly not to mention the CIWS system so around 1 in 50 harpoons would get threw (offical statistic quoted USN) the ticos air defence system consists only of SM-2 which couldnt shoot down numerous (about 12 or 14) SS-N-19 ship wreck missiles and one ship wreck could put an aircraft carrier out of commission (not sink it mission kill) harpoons are so dinky they would litteraly bounce off the hull the Exocet you stand more chance but again it would take a fair few. Kirov has the upper hand with missile range all he would have to do is send up a helo to link the tico's position then fire SS-N-19's at it the missile will find the target by its self. only missile more powerful than SS-N-19 is the SS-N-22 sunburn and thats carrier by the sovremenny's __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

12-07-05, 09:39 AM	#11
Terrax Warmonger Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV USA Posts: 101 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I voted for the Kirov. I read the The Dictionary of Modern War by Edward Luttwak and Stuart L. Koehl, which is like an encyclopedia for everything to do with the military. Detailed stats, on subs, ships, aircraft, tanks, missiles, ect and their capabilities. I voted for the Kirov. The book was written in 1990, and since then Tico have advanced and the Peter the Great is the only Kirov that is still seaworthy. But as for a 1 on 1 battle, the Kirov would win. The Kirov is classified by the west as a battle cruiser because it has such a powerful array of weapons. The Shipwrecks are supersonics missiles and would spend less time in the interception envelope, and also have much larger warheads than the much slower (and easier to shoot down) Harpoons. I also tested this with Harpoon 2002. The Harpoon community puts an enormous (near fanatical) amount of work in making sure the data on everything in the game is kept up to date and realistic. The Kirov won every time. __________________