Why is the XXI good?

davidaspy · 11-28-05, 11:32 AM

Im sure im missing something but I think this boat is rubbish even compared to the XIB I used for most of the war. I seem to have traded surface speed, deck gun, decent AA guns, rear torpedos and 30000 renown for 2 knots more underwater speed and internal torpedos. How do I use this sub effectively?

Dowly · 11-28-05, 11:40 AM

In the later years, uboots had to spent more time under the surface because of the allied radar. XXI was better in the submerged conditions than IX, VII or II.

Etienne · 11-28-05, 12:29 PM

Also, XXI has speed of light reloading.

Dowly · 11-28-05, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

Also, XXI has speed of light reloading.

Yes, didnÂ´t they use automatic reload system on XXI? Something more "mechanic" than manpower.

Wijbrandus · 11-28-05, 12:57 PM

What year does the XXI become available? The manual doesn't list it. I'd assumed it was just there for single missions.

KapitÃ¤n Cremer · 11-28-05, 01:08 PM

The first XXI Prototype became operationel during late 1943 in the Bergen flotilla...

So should be commen around the new year change of 1944 in this flotilla....

Oberon · 11-28-05, 03:21 PM

Just in time to surrender to the Allies

Sulikate · 11-29-05, 12:13 PM

2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...

davidaspy · 11-29-05, 07:11 PM

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2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...

With snorkel and engine upgrades you can get 15 out of it (i think)

Etienne · 11-29-05, 08:50 PM

Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Marhkimov · 11-29-05, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Correct. That is cheating...

P_Funk · 11-30-05, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sulikate

2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...

Actually it can go faster submerged than surfaced. At first it seems strange but then it makes sense if you think about it. It was designed to operate UNDER water so shouldn't it be faster in its element?

Ducimus · 11-30-05, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Sadly, this isnt modled in SH3. You can, theoritically, go at flank w/ snorkel deployed until your fuel is gone.

P_Funk · 11-30-05, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

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Originally Posted by Etienne

Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Sadly, this isnt modled in SH3. You can, theoritically, go at flank w/ snorkel deployed until your fuel is gone.

But also apparently the Snorkel is incredibly more visible than it should be to aircraft overhead. So the inconsistencies go both ways.

kiwi_2005 · 11-30-05, 11:49 PM

The XXI's were the first True Submarines. Hell im commanding a VIIC at the moment and they're good boats, but give me a XXI anyday.

Dont use a XXI online though unless others do, otherwise its too easy.

11-28-05, 11:32 AM	#1
davidaspy Mate Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of the South Posts: 56 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Why is the XXI good? Im sure im missing something but I think this boat is rubbish even compared to the XIB I used for most of the war. I seem to have traded surface speed, deck gun, decent AA guns, rear torpedos and 30000 renown for 2 knots more underwater speed and internal torpedos. How do I use this sub effectively? __________________ Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines.

11-28-05, 01:08 PM	#6
KapitÃ¤n Cremer Sailor man Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 47 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The first XXI Prototype became operationel during late 1943 in the Bergen flotilla... So should be commen around the new year change of 1944 in this flotilla.... __________________ Ship sighted ! Arm the Torpedoes KapitÃ¤n Cremer, U333

11-29-05, 12:13 PM	#8
Sulikate Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Korea Posts: 834 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts... __________________ Se flutua e não fala quack, afunde-o!

11-30-05, 11:49 PM	#15
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	The XXI's were the first True Submarines. Hell im commanding a VIIC at the moment and they're good boats, but give me a XXI anyday. Dont use a XXI online though unless others do, otherwise its too easy. __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

11-28-05, 11:40 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	In the later years, uboots had to spent more time under the surface because of the allied radar. XXI was better in the submerged conditions than IX, VII or II.

11-28-05, 12:29 PM	#3
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Also, XXI has speed of light reloading.

11-28-05, 12:57 PM	#5
Wijbrandus Loader Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Littleton, Colorado Posts: 83 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	What year does the XXI become available? The manual doesn't list it. I'd assumed it was just there for single missions.

11-28-05, 03:21 PM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Just in time to surrender to the Allies

11-29-05, 08:50 PM	#10
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.