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davidaspy 11-28-05 11:32 AM

Why is the XXI good?
 
Im sure im missing something but I think this boat is rubbish even compared to the XIB I used for most of the war. I seem to have traded surface speed, deck gun, decent AA guns, rear torpedos and 30000 renown for 2 knots more underwater speed and internal torpedos. How do I use this sub effectively?

Dowly 11-28-05 11:40 AM

In the later years, uboots had to spent more time under the surface because of the allied radar. XXI was better in the submerged conditions than IX, VII or II.

Etienne 11-28-05 12:29 PM

Also, XXI has speed of light reloading.

Dowly 11-28-05 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
Also, XXI has speed of light reloading.

Yes, didn´t they use automatic reload system on XXI? Something more "mechanic" than manpower.

Wijbrandus 11-28-05 12:57 PM

What year does the XXI become available? The manual doesn't list it. I'd assumed it was just there for single missions.

Kapitän Cremer 11-28-05 01:08 PM

The first XXI Prototype became operationel during late 1943 in the Bergen flotilla...

So should be commen around the new year change of 1944 in this flotilla....

Oberon 11-28-05 03:21 PM

Just in time to surrender to the Allies ;)

Sulikate 11-29-05 12:13 PM

2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...

davidaspy 11-29-05 07:11 PM

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2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...
With snorkel and engine upgrades you can get 15 out of it (i think)

Etienne 11-29-05 08:50 PM

Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Marhkimov 11-29-05 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Correct. That is cheating... :shifty:

P_Funk 11-30-05 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sulikate
2 knots more?!? Type VIIB reaches 8knts submerged, and XXI 17knts...

Actually it can go faster submerged than surfaced. At first it seems strange but then it makes sense if you think about it. It was designed to operate UNDER water so shouldn't it be faster in its element?

Ducimus 11-30-05 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne
Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Sadly, this isnt modled in SH3. You can, theoritically, go at flank w/ snorkel deployed until your fuel is gone.

P_Funk 11-30-05 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Etienne
Hint : Snorkel and high speeds don't go together well.

Sadly, this isnt modled in SH3. You can, theoritically, go at flank w/ snorkel deployed until your fuel is gone.

But also apparently the Snorkel is incredibly more visible than it should be to aircraft overhead. So the inconsistencies go both ways.

kiwi_2005 11-30-05 11:49 PM

The XXI's were the first True Submarines. Hell im commanding a VIIC at the moment and they're good boats, but give me a XXI anyday.

Dont use a XXI online though unless others do, otherwise its too easy.


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