Best submarine in the fleet

[Kapitan]

whats the best submarine in the dangerous waters fleet any takers?

[TLAM Strike]

Kilo Imp.
Cheap, Quiet, and Deadly a dangerous combination.

[Kapitan]

Amen

[retired1212]

NIKKO CLASS

Main features:
1. Quiet and silent
2. Economical
3. Reliable
4. Cheap

And the most important, portable. You can even ride on it in your bathtub during the shower time.

Originally Posted by Oombongo

NIKKO CLASS

Nice one But what about her detection abilities and weaponry?

[Syxx_Killer]

Originally Posted by Negr

Nice one But what about her detection abilities and weaponry?

Don't you see that ferocious looking mouth? It chomps its victims to pieces.

[OKO]

Stealth of the KILO is just ruined by the SW active capability.
If the mission of the Seawolf is to hunt subs, then he will use his fantastic active sonar, and then the KILO is just relegated : you can find him and engage him at 20 miles ...
Of course, KILO is a very nice platform, at very low cost compared to a SW. A very nice ratio cost/efficiency
But on what we could see on DW ... no sub can challenge a SW.
Even if 688i and Akula are not so far from him.

But best stealth, best sensors, best CM capabilities, and especially WAA give SW best overall capabilities.
WAA make things really easiest, not to hunt subs, but for situationnal awareness => just have to clic on RAPLOC on 3 LOBS for any contact to have a fast and very accurate solution on every contact arounds ... in 5 minutes
where you need 8 LOBs for less accurate solutions (you ned to find yourself the target range) with 688i and Akulas.

SW allow you to refine and update much more quickly your situationnal awarness just because of the WAA.

[cowman1009]

So here I was voting thinking we were talking real world (silly me). Guess I should read the posts prior to responding. If we're talking real world then currently the 688i class far exceeds Seawolf; my reasons being that on paper and in theory the Seawolf far surpasses any class in speed, stealth and capabilities however, in reality they only built 3 (2 normal and one special) of the class and most major vendors went out of buisness so repair parts are hard to come by and when (and I stress when) they do go to sea they run at reduced capability. Though they are a good boat overall I prefer my 688i anyday. Tough, reliable, quiet and lots of weapons

Originally Posted by OKO

no sub can challenge a SW.

Yea, so. SW's the best in DW! Though, Sub itself is a tin can without a clever and resolute skipper
For myself, I like 688i. Something charming for me in those VLs
But most of all subs, I like Alpha! She's beauty, isn't she?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by OKO

Stealth of the KILO is just ruined by the SW active capability.
If the mission of the Seawolf is to hunt subs, then he will use his fantastic active sonar, and then the KILO is just relegated : you can find him and engage him at 20 miles ...

Ummm the Kilo can just turn tail and run when you attack from 20 miles away and be out of your weapons range. Or can rush in one mile and attack with SUBROCs. If the SW decides to rush in and attack it runs the risk of getting SUBROCed by another hostile platform.

Of course, KILO is a very nice platform, at very low cost compared to a SW. A very nice ratio cost/efficiency

Yea its just sick that a 1.5 billion dollar platform is needed to kill a 300 million dollar one.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Negr

But most of all subs, I like Alpha! She's beauty, isn't she?

Yes she's just glowing! :P

[Kapitan]

nothing can challenge a SW

WTF are you on an akula 2 in a kife fight is capible of destroying a seawolf, i myself last night infact came very close to killing a seawolf then i lost connection.

a kilo is capible of killing a SW an alfa a mike is capible of killing SW a german 212/214 a lada amur class british astute and trafalgar

all these could kill a SW the seawolf could ahve a bad day and bang its gone

the alfa is a very very sexy boat shame there being cut up

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

the alfa is a very very sexy boat shame there being cut up

Yeah, sexy to look at but that's about it.

[Kapitan]

there speed was superiour and still is 45 knots doubt the seawolf could reach that probly around 37 knots tops for SSN 21

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

there speed was superiour and still is 45 knots doubt the seawolf could reach that probly around 37 knots tops for SSN 21

Yeah, that's based on personal bias. The USN is saying positively squat about the 21's, so for all we know, they could do 50 knots. Not likely that any offical source is going to say a word about it.