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Kapitan 11-14-05 07:56 PM

Best submarine in the fleet
 
whats the best submarine in the dangerous waters fleet any takers?

TLAM Strike 11-14-05 09:30 PM

Kilo Imp. :yep:
Cheap, Quiet, and Deadly a dangerous combination. :up:

Kapitan 11-15-05 02:22 AM

Amen

retired1212 11-15-05 03:32 AM

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/4562/toysub7sk.gif

NIKKO CLASS

Main features:
1. Quiet and silent
2. Economical
3. Reliable
4. Cheap

And the most important, portable. You can even ride on it in your bathtub during the shower time. :yep: :up:

11-15-05 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Oombongo
NIKKO CLASS

Nice one :) But what about her detection abilities and weaponry? :lol:

Syxx_Killer 11-15-05 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Negr
Nice one :) But what about her detection abilities and weaponry? :lol:

Don't you see that ferocious looking mouth? It chomps its victims to pieces.

OKO 11-15-05 11:48 AM

Stealth of the KILO is just ruined by the SW active capability.
If the mission of the Seawolf is to hunt subs, then he will use his fantastic active sonar, and then the KILO is just relegated : you can find him and engage him at 20 miles ...
Of course, KILO is a very nice platform, at very low cost compared to a SW. A very nice ratio cost/efficiency
But on what we could see on DW ... no sub can challenge a SW.
Even if 688i and Akula are not so far from him.

But best stealth, best sensors, best CM capabilities, and especially WAA give SW best overall capabilities.
WAA make things really easiest, not to hunt subs, but for situationnal awareness => just have to clic on RAPLOC on 3 LOBS for any contact to have a fast and very accurate solution on every contact arounds ... in 5 minutes
where you need 8 LOBs for less accurate solutions (you ned to find yourself the target range) with 688i and Akulas.

SW allow you to refine and update much more quickly your situationnal awarness just because of the WAA.

cowman1009 11-15-05 01:30 PM

So here I was voting thinking we were talking real world (silly me). Guess I should read the posts prior to responding. If we're talking real world then currently the 688i class far exceeds Seawolf; my reasons being that on paper and in theory the Seawolf far surpasses any class in speed, stealth and capabilities however, in reality they only built 3 (2 normal and one special) of the class and most major vendors went out of buisness so repair parts are hard to come by and when (and I stress when) they do go to sea they run at reduced capability. Though they are a good boat overall I prefer my 688i anyday. Tough, reliable, quiet and lots of weapons :rock:

11-15-05 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OKO
no sub can challenge a SW.

Yea, so. SW's the best in DW! Though, Sub itself is a tin can without a clever and resolute skipper :up:
For myself, I like 688i. Something charming for me in those VLs :D
But most of all subs, I like Alpha! She's beauty, isn't she? :sunny:
http://submarine.id.ru/galery/t566.jpg

TLAM Strike 11-15-05 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKO
Stealth of the KILO is just ruined by the SW active capability.
If the mission of the Seawolf is to hunt subs, then he will use his fantastic active sonar, and then the KILO is just relegated : you can find him and engage him at 20 miles ...

Ummm the Kilo can just turn tail and run when you attack from 20 miles away and be out of your weapons range. Or can rush in one mile and attack with SUBROCs. If the SW decides to rush in and attack it runs the risk of getting SUBROCed by another hostile platform.

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Of course, KILO is a very nice platform, at very low cost compared to a SW. A very nice ratio cost/efficiency
Yea its just sick that a 1.5 billion dollar platform is needed to kill a 300 million dollar one. ;)

TLAM Strike 11-15-05 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Negr
But most of all subs, I like Alpha! She's beauty, isn't she? :sunny:
http://submarine.id.ru/galery/t566.jpg

Yes she's just glowing! :P

Kapitan 11-15-05 02:10 PM

nothing can challenge a SW

WTF are you on :o an akula 2 in a kife fight is capible of destroying a seawolf, i myself last night infact came very close to killing a seawolf then i lost connection.

a kilo is capible of killing a SW an alfa a mike is capible of killing SW a german 212/214 a lada amur class british astute and trafalgar

all these could kill a SW the seawolf could ahve a bad day and bang its gone

the alfa is a very very sexy boat shame there being cut up :(

Konovalov 11-15-05 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain
the alfa is a very very sexy boat shame there being cut up :(

Yeah, sexy to look at but that's about it.

Kapitan 11-15-05 05:04 PM

there speed was superiour and still is 45 knots doubt the seawolf could reach that probly around 37 knots tops for SSN 21

Takeda Shingen 11-15-05 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitain
there speed was superiour and still is 45 knots doubt the seawolf could reach that probly around 37 knots tops for SSN 21

Yeah, that's based on personal bias. The USN is saying positively squat about the 21's, so for all we know, they could do 50 knots. Not likely that any offical source is going to say a word about it.


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