Evil Twin Artworks Games Victory At Sea Atlantic

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Hey everyone...
Have fun...


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...Naval_Warfare/

Attention early access... I recommend it anyway... nothing to do with the Victory at the sea Pacific version... a real little atmosphere already... well at least for me advice to aficionados...

[Oubaas]

Thanks for the recommendation, KM. I'll definitely give this one a try.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Originally Posted by Oubaas

Thanks for the recommendation, KM. I'll definitely give this one a try.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Hello everyone...
I add...the developer team is listening to resolve problems..Do not hesitate to share your suggestions to improve the project.
all contributions will be welcome in order to expand as much as possible...
Kind regards Kal Maximus U669

[welk2]

VICTORY AT SEA OPUS 1 is not dead...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2...ictory_At_Sea/

And actually (23/04/2025) in promotion on Gog games : (less of 4 euros^^)
https://www.gog.com/fr/game/victory_at_sea

The opus 1 is the best of the serie

Victory at sea Pacific: no good in my opinion (largely inferior to the opus 1)
Victory at sea Ironclad : No more supported by devs (seems it was only a try to see if thema had interest for gamers before to lunch real heavy work)
Victory at sea Atlantic : not a pure naval game, you have to manage an empire with industry and farms, no any interest in naval game^^.

Devs should better have made DLC and extensions for the opus 1, that is the best naval game I know. Not ultra realistic, of course, but with some DLC and extensions, devs could have improved it in the way of more realism.
They tried to do that in opus Pacific and Atlantic but the result is (for me, naval player) not so good than the opus 1. They followed a too complicated way, with lot of non-usefull things for naval warfare, and the game became not so funny than opus 1 (in my opinion). I bought the 2 (Atlantic and Pacific on Gog games and I saw they need high config OS to run correctly, on ordinary PC - low config - it's unplayable : lag, freez, bad look, etc and I can not change my Pc just for one game that have in my opinon not the same gameplay qualities than opus 1. What is the sense to have to build industry and farmes in a naval warfare game ?

Too complicated, not enough "pure naval".


[B]I prefer largely Victory at sea opus 1 and I made some modding works for this excellent game.

PRE-DREADNOUGHT MOD (ready)
WW 1 NAVAL WARFARE MODE (ready)
FALKLANDS NAVAL WARFARE MOD (in work)

https://steamcommunity.com/app/298480/discussions/


I love a lot this opus 1 because it's a 100% naval game and it has a lot of qualities. It has not a perfect "realism" and the "campaign mode" has no real interest in my opinion, but when you use his "custom battle mod", you discover a high gemm, the game is a dream for naval gamer. : you may build in a few secunds large battles with 20 ships in each side, and the fun is gigantic. The game works fine and has no any bugs.

The only default is that you can not register the battles during playing : too bad dev have not sold a DLC to improve that : with DLC and extensions, they could have largely improved the game : this game is in naval gaming exactly the same as the old and venerable "Steel Panthers" was for ground warfare : the best and equilibrated game never made.


Not the same case for opus Pacific and Atlantic...

In Atantic, you have to build industry and farms... What is the link with naval warfare ? No any sense in a naval game, I did not find in these 2 opus the same "naval preasure" I had with opus 1.

More realistic, perhaps. More detailled ships, perhaps. But not so funny to play, these 2 games are not made to manage 20 ships by fleet like did the opus 1 with smaller (and in my opinion beautifull modelized, even if they are simple) ships... And the fun is very important in games^^

Concerning detailled ships, I have to say that the fact of ships in VICTORY ATS EA opus 1 are "simple" is not a problem, because in all games you may play with "beautifull zoomed ships", you see no any sailors on these ships^^ : it has no any sense.
In addition, to manage large fleets of 20 ships do not need to zoom each time.


If devs could do DLC and extensions improving the opus 1, it would be a dream, the game is close perfect. I asked for that to dev, but the answer was : We have get more money with Pacific than with Victory at sea opus 1.

But what I see is that bad Opus Pacific is no more supported, and that the excellent opus 1 victory at sea is abandoned...

They run forwards for nothing : In 2014-2015, Victory at sea opus 1 was a great success, because they have mad the ultima naval little gemm : close to perfection, equilibrated between "historical-realism" and game fun.
And this game is absolutly no a "arcade" game : playing numerous and numerous "custom battles", (I do bnot use the campaign node) I noticed that you have to manage your battle with a naval tactic, if not you fail.

You have to take in mind the parts of the ennemy ships you want to hit, if you do not, your fires will be no efficients (sample : when I want to destroy the forward batteries of a ennemy ship, I fire precisely on these batteries. And same for engine, rear governs, etc : very funny game.

In addition, the interface is excellent and you may pause/unpause the game, keeping absolutly all functions : yopu may play it as a "turn per turn" classic naval wargame or like a RTS : as you want to do, you have entire choice.

In 2018, devs get money with Pacific opus because they "surfed" on the excellent reputation of Victory at sea opus 1
It's probably the reason for what they have get money with this second opus.
But as game, it was not so good than opus 1, and finally no longer supported


After that, they producded in 2021 Victory at sea Ironclad.
And the game had visibly not same success than opus 1, and had been no longer supported



After that, they try to produce Atlantic. But in my opinion, same way : they have ruined the original and excellent concept of Victory at sea opus 1, and they should better hav made lot of DLC and extensions to improve thos opus 1.

I ask devs to follow this way but they seems continue to run forwards... I do not think they will be able to surf on the good reputation of pacific opus in 2025, like they surfed in 2018 on the good reputation of Victory ats ea opus 1.

It's a pity to see how devs damage their own excellent creations with bad strategy...
The result is that :

Victory at sea : excellent game, no longer supported
Victory at sea Pacific : bad (in my opinion), no longer supported
Victory at sea Ironclad : no loger supported
Victory ats ea Atlantic : ? If you take a look on the steam evaluations, new are not optimists..

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1...p_reviews_hash

Medium level of evaluation, like Pacific opus and Ironclad opus (the both no longer supported at this time)

I think the way for Atlantic will probably be the same. Too bad they refuse to take in mind that Victory at sea opus 1 was a absolutly genius concept, I never seen a so perfect game in my naval gamer life : it's a heavy error to abandon this simple and genius concept to do games that are less funny and more complicated...

They should have just o build DLC extensions of this gemm and they would have sold lot of copy :
- 16th to 18°th century (a kind of "Age of sail)
- 19th century (Age or ironclads)
- 1914 : Age of Dreadnoughts
- WW2 : some DLC extension to give additionnels ships andto improve the vanilla game (possibility to register battles, end report battle, etc)
- Modern cold naval warfare (I plane myself a specific mod for that, I founded some moddings tips to do that with the vanilla opus 1)

They could have get money of players without great difficulties, but they took another way to create 2 games (pacific and Ironclad opus) that are no longer supported (it's alwayd bad for the reputation of a game studio, gamers prefer when devs follow their excellent game, and Victory at sea opus 1 is the most excellent naval game I never seen, a genius naval game)

Perhaps is it not too late to rectify these errors. I asked devs, when they will have finished Atlantic opus, to produce DLC and extensions for the opus 1, but they seems not consider that way and seems prefer to run forwards.

I think that Atlantic opus will follow the same issue than Pacific, because the 2 games are not so different : Atlantic just return to the "opus 1 look", but the global concept stays concept of Pacific opus, that was not funny : lot and lot of cliks in game to do anything, lot of things without any link with a naval warfare game, etc

Altnaitc is not the same concept as Victory at sea opus 1 concept, that was more equilibrated between fun and "realism". Probbaly, Atlantic opus will be more realistic. With more higher detailled ships. Ok. But for me, not the same pleasure in game/ despite the bad freez, lag etc on my PC (that is not high config OS and you need to have that to play Atlantis opus), I tried the game.

And finally un-sinstalled it.

Too bad to not get again the same naval pleasure. But if DLC and extensions for Victory at sea opus 1 were sold, I woulb buy as soon a spossible the entire collection !

Hope the devs will understand and return a day to the excellent original concept of Victory at sea opus 1 : why not a new Victory at sea opus 1 ? with same size of ships, but perhaps more beautiffull (in my opinion, the actual ships have really correct graphism, but all may be improved in life). I listed some wish for that on the Victory at sea forum

https://steamcommunity.com/app/29848...2469261424106/

But it seems that devs consider Victory at sea opus 1 as a "dead game" for them. Great error in my opinion...

[Aktungbby]

welk2! finally back on the surface after 2 years' 'silent running!Great post!