Question

Doolar · 11-07-22, 12:04 PM

I'm Doolar or Jerry in real life. I'm planning on installing SHIV. Some might recognize me from the SHIII side of SUBSIM. I have a question for ya'll, what is the DIFFERENCE between the super mods, not which is better. I would never ask that and besides I would eventually get around trying them all anyways and decide for myself. I've tried most every mod that SHIII has to offer, and all bring something different to the table. I'm sure the same goes here for SHIV. All are good. So, I just looking for the main differences here. I'll be a newbie here for a while, so I'm looking for a good balance between "game Play and Eye Candy". I would like to stay in the Pacific on US boats for starters until I get the hang of things. After that, I'll most likely venture out from there and try other Super or Mega Mods. Thanx Jerry CA45

KaleunMarco · 11-07-22, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Doolar

I'm Doolar or Jerry in real life. I'm planning on installing SHIV. Some might recognize me from the SHIII side of SUBSIM. I have a question for ya'll, what is the DIFFERENCE between the super mods, not which is better. I would never ask that and besides I would eventually get around trying them all anyways and decide for myself. I've tried most every mod that SHIII has to offer, and all bring something different to the table. I'm sure the same goes here for SHIV. All are good. So, I just looking for the main differences here. I'll be a newbie here for a while, so I'm looking for a good balance between "game Play and Eye Candy". I would like to stay in the Pacific on US boats for starters until I get the hang of things. After that, I'll most likely venture out from there and try other Super or Mega Mods. Thanx Jerry CA45

jerry, welcome to SH4.
you are probably going to get a lot of varying opinions on this topic.
my suggestion is to buy a license for SH4 Version 1.5 with Uboat missions. this version will allow you to play almost all of the mega-mods that are worth playing.
i would also suggest downloading and applying GFO (game fixes only) and then play that "Stock" game for a while.
While you are playing stock, take some time and investigate these: mega-mods:

Original TMO (v2.5) +RSRD (trigger maru overhauled and run silent run deep)
TMO ala BH (bubblehead1980)
FOTRSU (fall of the rising sun ultimate by s7rikeback and propbeanie)
and when you want to go back to the ATO for some new German experiences, Dark Waters.

good luck and have fun!

propbeanie · 11-07-22, 02:23 PM

Hey Jerry! Good to see you over on the "dark side"... lol Most of the mods you will find are for SH4 v1.5 (Gold Edition - with U-Boat Missions) and are US Pacific-based, but if you do not want to wander too far from the U-Boat side of things, then you want Dark Waters, which is what Fifi did to lurker_hlb3's Operation Monsun mod. Maybe you might want to try Niume's reworking of Knights of the Sea Depths II:Ace Edition. Both are world-wide mods with the player driving U-Boats. Both have their strong points, and their not-so-strong points. Both are similar to SH3, but with SH4 "updates" that offer a slightly better gameplay, but SH4 does lose that claustrophobic feeling of SH3 somehow. "Atmosphere" also maybe??

For the US side of things, there is Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate (FotRSU), which is based on the AOTD_MadMax team's Fall Of The Rising Sun (FOTRS) mod, which in turn, is based on TMO v1.7 (Trigger Maru Overhauled) - I'm using base terms to describe the mods though... FotRSU is a "pretty" mod that attempts gameplay for realism... ?? It has a rather large Roster of ships, planes and submarines. Another choice would be Bubblehead1980's reworking of TMO in Trigger Maru Overhauled Update BH, which is based on TMO also. TMO was originally a difficulty mod, but Bubblehead1980 liberally borrowed from other mods, including FotRSU for a larger asset Roster. There are some issues with CTD, apparently most likely due to the use of an add-in mod based on a "EAX_Clang_Splash TMO" combo. I have not had time to play the mod lately, and have not tried to find the issue. Then of course, there are the original mods of OpMonsun (lurker_hlb3) and Trigger Maru (Ducimus), both of which have a lot of possible add-ins and various version available. The Run Silent Run Deep Campaign (RSRDC) mod is an add-on for both of those and / or the Stock game, and has a lot of "historical" groupings in the campaign files. Another mod you might want to consider is Real Fleet Boat (RFB), which the Stock version of RSRDC can sit on top of. RFB attempts realism in the submarines' mechanics, and you can die easily, especially in an S-Boat, in which a rusted hull is simulated. You might make it to test depth, then again, maybe not... lol

There are other mods out there, such as lurker_hlb3's We Dive at Dawn (British subs, but not quite a finished product), among others, that are not US or German based. Whatever you do, use MultiSH4 to create new, unique Save folder names, and use multiple copies of your SH4 install for the different mods to help you sort through them all. Most of the newer mods will require the use of the 4Gig Patch or LAA to gain access to more RAM.

Doolar · 11-08-22, 12:33 AM

I have a DVD of Silent Hunter IV Gold Edition. Is that version 1.5 ?

boapiu · 11-08-22, 01:59 AM

Affirmative. Gold edition should be version 1.5

1Patriotofmany · 11-08-22, 10:12 AM

There's also a japanese sub mod, Darkwaters and KDS take the german side to even more reality.
The graphics on some of these mods will blow you away from SHIII. Darkwaters has great storm lightning, fog ect.....

11-07-22, 12:04 PM	#1
Doolar Expert Shipsinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baltimore,Md./ CA45 Posts: 914 Downloads: 360 Uploads: 0	Question I'm Doolar or Jerry in real life. I'm planning on installing SHIV. Some might recognize me from the SHIII side of SUBSIM. I have a question for ya'll, what is the DIFFERENCE between the super mods, not which is better. I would never ask that and besides I would eventually get around trying them all anyways and decide for myself. I've tried most every mod that SHIII has to offer, and all bring something different to the table. I'm sure the same goes here for SHIV. All are good. So, I just looking for the main differences here. I'll be a newbie here for a while, so I'm looking for a good balance between "game Play and Eye Candy". I would like to stay in the Pacific on US boats for starters until I get the hang of things. After that, I'll most likely venture out from there and try other Super or Mega Mods. Thanx Jerry CA45 __________________ ONEALEX 1.53 ARB / NYGM "ENHANCED Steel Coffin Edition" v7.8 DGUI / CCom12 DGUI / WAC 5.2 DGUI / Toyotagt86 v2.3 ARB / GWX3 DGUI / GWX Knight's Cross v1

11-07-22, 02:23 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Hey Jerry! Good to see you over on the "dark side"... lol Most of the mods you will find are for SH4 v1.5 (Gold Edition - with U-Boat Missions) and are US Pacific-based, but if you do not want to wander too far from the U-Boat side of things, then you want Dark Waters, which is what Fifi did to lurker_hlb3's Operation Monsun mod. Maybe you might want to try Niume's reworking of Knights of the Sea Depths II:Ace Edition. Both are world-wide mods with the player driving U-Boats. Both have their strong points, and their not-so-strong points. Both are similar to SH3, but with SH4 "updates" that offer a slightly better gameplay, but SH4 does lose that claustrophobic feeling of SH3 somehow. "Atmosphere" also maybe?? For the US side of things, there is Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate (FotRSU), which is based on the AOTD_MadMax team's Fall Of The Rising Sun (FOTRS) mod, which in turn, is based on TMO v1.7 (Trigger Maru Overhauled) - I'm using base terms to describe the mods though... FotRSU is a "pretty" mod that attempts gameplay for realism... ?? It has a rather large Roster of ships, planes and submarines. Another choice would be Bubblehead1980's reworking of TMO in Trigger Maru Overhauled Update BH, which is based on TMO also. TMO was originally a difficulty mod, but Bubblehead1980 liberally borrowed from other mods, including FotRSU for a larger asset Roster. There are some issues with CTD, apparently most likely due to the use of an add-in mod based on a "EAX_Clang_Splash TMO" combo. I have not had time to play the mod lately, and have not tried to find the issue. Then of course, there are the original mods of OpMonsun (lurker_hlb3) and Trigger Maru (Ducimus), both of which have a lot of possible add-ins and various version available. The Run Silent Run Deep Campaign (RSRDC) mod is an add-on for both of those and / or the Stock game, and has a lot of "historical" groupings in the campaign files. Another mod you might want to consider is Real Fleet Boat (RFB), which the Stock version of RSRDC can sit on top of. RFB attempts realism in the submarines' mechanics, and you can die easily, especially in an S-Boat, in which a rusted hull is simulated. You might make it to test depth, then again, maybe not... lol There are other mods out there, such as lurker_hlb3's We Dive at Dawn (British subs, but not quite a finished product), among others, that are not US or German based. Whatever you do, use MultiSH4 to create new, unique Save folder names, and use multiple copies of your SH4 install for the different mods to help you sort through them all. Most of the newer mods will require the use of the 4Gig Patch or LAA to gain access to more RAM. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

11-08-22, 12:33 AM	#4
Doolar Expert Shipsinker Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Baltimore,Md./ CA45 Posts: 914 Downloads: 360 Uploads: 0	Re I have a DVD of Silent Hunter IV Gold Edition. Is that version 1.5 ? __________________ ONEALEX 1.53 ARB / NYGM "ENHANCED Steel Coffin Edition" v7.8 DGUI / CCom12 DGUI / WAC 5.2 DGUI / Toyotagt86 v2.3 ARB / GWX3 DGUI / GWX Knight's Cross v1

11-08-22, 01:59 AM	#5
boapiu Seaman Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 38 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Affirmative. Gold edition should be version 1.5

11-08-22, 10:12 AM	#6
1Patriotofmany Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 574 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	There's also a japanese sub mod, Darkwaters and KDS take the german side to even more reality. The graphics on some of these mods will blow you away from SHIII. Darkwaters has great storm lightning, fog ect.....