Scapa Flow East entrance guide and maps.

SS Norholm · 08-13-17, 04:33 PM

After a successfull raid on Scapa Flow today, sinking 2 Capital Ships!
HMS Renown and the HMS Royal Sovereign!

I thought i'd share my route into Scapa Flow, as it may help other new players too.

My game version is SH5 with The Wolves Of Steel mod.

I marked the obstacles on the map with the Marker, Compass and Ruler map tools, with the help of the external camera (for accuracy of objects) once i'd safely got in, and hid quietly at Periscope depth before the attack.
This also enabled me to plot the route back out, knowing it was safe, without having to crawl along slowly looking for obstacles and constantly pinging depths like on the way in.

This is the East entrance to Scapa Flow also known as Lamb Holm or Holm sound IRL, and also the same route in this guy took

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Prien

You will need to do this under the cover of darkness as you need to surface to traverse the obstacles half way in, you will be out of sight of the Coastal defenses by then.

The shallowest depth below Keel i recorded on this route, was 9m (constant pinging on way in) and i traveled along at Dead Slow and 1/3.

First image shows east entrance with positions of Coastal Defenses and Mines (go to Peri depth to avoid been seen by the Coastal Defenses until surface mark)

Close up of mine positions

Yellow line is route i took (safe) once i surfaced. Mines marked with map marker x's, block ships and nets with ruler lines. The gaps between the mines and the semi-sunk block ship bow and stern i are bigger than they look here!

Overall picture of mines, block ships, subnets and route. Once clear of Coastal defenses view!
Be careful near end of yellow route on the left, as there are usually 2 escorts anchored in the small bay below the yellow arrow just as you enter Scapa.

Hope it helps, happy hunting!

John.

THEBERBSTER · 08-13-17, 05:46 PM

Hi John
I always preferred to use the West Coast's right channel as it is less hazardous and much less well defended with only a couple of mines on the surface.
Anything less than a medium fog the coastal defenses will pick you off.
I would wait outside the entrance and start at around 20.30 at decks awash.
Once clear of the coastal defences then it was ok to surface and use the darkness as cover.
It would take me around 11 hours to complete this mission.

BTF as a miision has always been debatable because of the lack of AI from the defenders when you would expect all hell to break loose just does not happen.
It is good experience though and a hefty bit of tonnage is always good for morale.

Your picture size needs to come down to 1280 x 1024.
I am using Postimage and screen shots do not need to be re-sized for Subsim.
Peter

SS Norholm · 08-14-17, 02:17 AM

Thanks for the tips Peter, I'll check out the West entrance next time.
Yeah it takes some time eh! I spent all day yesterday to get in, map it, attack and get out

By the way, those Subnets were glitched, sticking out of the water, they looked like large sails on the surface from about 4-5km, they slowly settled but still above Water some.

Ya, also a shame about the lack of retaliation, an armed merchant ship came sniffing about near me when I submerged after I sunk those 2 battleships, but soon left without attacking.

Just hoping I get some sort of message or recognition now I've left there.

Racked up 58,000 tonnes with those two!
There was a huge Dale class tanker I could if took too, but wasn't sure about counter attacks, so I left sharpish!

THEBERBSTER · 08-14-17, 04:13 AM

John
The tonnage should go towards your U-boat upgrade and of course bonus points.
I am not currently running TWOS at the moment as I am testing out sobers mega mod which I have been involved in recently.
I do not think I will do BTF again with TWOS but will add the VIIB mod and carry on with the other missions.
It ia worth doing it once for the experience and although it has been modded to make it more difficult to get in and out IMO it is let down by the AI's lack of response.
Peter

Leon0803 · 07-24-18, 06:34 AM

My game crashes everytime i enter scapa flow :c

XenonSurf · 07-24-18, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon0803

My game crashes everytime i enter scapa flow :c

Sorry to read that. Btw, did you resolve your 'text appearing problem' ?

vdr1981 · 07-24-18, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon0803

My game crashes everytime i enter scapa flow :c

Don't be so detailed mate...

Pirate · 05-16-19, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon0803

My game crashes everytime i enter scapa flow :c

Yup, the British got some High Tech defense there!

08-13-17, 04:33 PM	#1
SS Norholm Shark Hunter Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: AM 9661 Posts: 92 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Scapa Flow East entrance guide and maps. After a successfull raid on Scapa Flow today, sinking 2 Capital Ships! HMS Renown and the HMS Royal Sovereign! I thought i'd share my route into Scapa Flow, as it may help other new players too. My game version is SH5 with The Wolves Of Steel mod. I marked the obstacles on the map with the Marker, Compass and Ruler map tools, with the help of the external camera (for accuracy of objects) once i'd safely got in, and hid quietly at Periscope depth before the attack. This also enabled me to plot the route back out, knowing it was safe, without having to crawl along slowly looking for obstacles and constantly pinging depths like on the way in. This is the East entrance to Scapa Flow also known as Lamb Holm or Holm sound IRL, and also the same route in this guy took https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Prien You will need to do this under the cover of darkness as you need to surface to traverse the obstacles half way in, you will be out of sight of the Coastal defenses by then. The shallowest depth below Keel i recorded on this route, was 9m (constant pinging on way in) and i traveled along at Dead Slow and 1/3. First image shows east entrance with positions of Coastal Defenses and Mines (go to Peri depth to avoid been seen by the Coastal Defenses until surface mark) Close up of mine positions Yellow line is route i took (safe) once i surfaced. Mines marked with map marker x's, block ships and nets with ruler lines. The gaps between the mines and the semi-sunk block ship bow and stern i are bigger than they look here! Overall picture of mines, block ships, subnets and route. Once clear of Coastal defenses view! Be careful near end of yellow route on the left, as there are usually 2 escorts anchored in the small bay below the yellow arrow just as you enter Scapa. Hope it helps, happy hunting! John.

08-13-17, 05:46 PM	#2
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi John I always preferred to use the West Coast's right channel as it is less hazardous and much less well defended with only a couple of mines on the surface. Anything less than a medium fog the coastal defenses will pick you off. I would wait outside the entrance and start at around 20.30 at decks awash. Once clear of the coastal defences then it was ok to surface and use the darkness as cover. It would take me around 11 hours to complete this mission. BTF as a miision has always been debatable because of the lack of AI from the defenders when you would expect all hell to break loose just does not happen. It is good experience though and a hefty bit of tonnage is always good for morale. Your picture size needs to come down to 1280 x 1024. I am using Postimage and screen shots do not need to be re-sized for Subsim. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 07-24-18 at 12:57 PM. Reason: increase text size

08-14-17, 04:13 AM	#4
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	John The tonnage should go towards your U-boat upgrade and of course bonus points. I am not currently running TWOS at the moment as I am testing out sobers mega mod which I have been involved in recently. I do not think I will do BTF again with TWOS but will add the VIIB mod and carry on with the other missions. It ia worth doing it once for the experience and although it has been modded to make it more difficult to get in and out IMO it is let down by the AI's lack of response. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM Last edited by THEBERBSTER; 07-24-18 at 12:57 PM. Reason: increase text size

08-14-17, 02:17 AM	#3
SS Norholm Shark Hunter Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: AM 9661 Posts: 92 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the tips Peter, I'll check out the West entrance next time. Yeah it takes some time eh! I spent all day yesterday to get in, map it, attack and get out By the way, those Subnets were glitched, sticking out of the water, they looked like large sails on the surface from about 4-5km, they slowly settled but still above Water some. Ya, also a shame about the lack of retaliation, an armed merchant ship came sniffing about near me when I submerged after I sunk those 2 battleships, but soon left without attacking. Just hoping I get some sort of message or recognition now I've left there. Racked up 58,000 tonnes with those two! There was a huge Dale class tanker I could if took too, but wasn't sure about counter attacks, so I left sharpish!

07-24-18, 06:34 AM	#5
Leon0803 Watch Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 15 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	My game crashes everytime i enter scapa flow :c