Is it really true SH5 crashes more in Campaign then SH3?

Lonny007 · 03-16-16, 11:35 PM

I read awhile back that its very common for SH5 (i am assuming no mods) to crash while playing the campaign compared to SH3 (no mods), in other words is the Stock SH3 campaign more stable then the Stock SH5 campaign? I would like to know if this is really true from people that have played campaigns on both games SH3 and SH5. Thanks for any info!

Lonny

Niume · 03-17-16, 04:36 AM

Sh5 does crashes more its **** sh5 poop

Cybermat47 · 03-17-16, 04:38 AM

I've encountered no CTDs since installing TWoS.

Bilge_Rat · 03-17-16, 12:44 PM

I don't recall ever having any CTDs in a SH3, 4 or 5 campaign.

That said, most CTDs IMHO are caused by conflicting mods and/or corrupted saves.

siege00 · 03-17-16, 02:17 PM

It's been so long since I've played SH3 or 5 unmodded, but IIRC SH3 was more stable. Nowadays, playing with both (modded), I'd say SH5 crashes more often, but TWoS is pretty darn stable, especially if you read the tips about maintaining stability.

Lonny007 · 03-20-16, 07:04 AM

Thanks for the replys, so it almost sounds if a MOD for SH5 makes the game more stable, interesting, where there any mods that fixed any stability problems with SH3? Thanks Again!

Lonny

THEBERBSTER · 03-20-16, 07:23 AM

Hi guys
I have been playing The Wolves Of Steel since July 2015.
To date I have counted 124 manual game saves from my log book and never had a ctd.
Go about it the right way and SH5 is very stable.
Peter

MENTAT · 03-21-16, 01:35 PM

I still prefer SH3 over SH5 for numerous reasons. Reliability is one of them.

Lonny007 · 03-22-16, 12:28 AM

Wow THEBERBSTER thats great to hear, sounds like its very possible to have a very stable SH5 then, good to know.

Thanks for everyones input!

Lonny

03-27-16, 06:03 PM

I'm finding GWX SH3 is incredibly stable. Since I started following the simple saving rules
1. no saves within 55KM of land
2. no saves while in contact (map contacts are OK)
3. no saves within 55km of port.
4. no saves within 12km of sinking ships.

I know this has been covered endlessly to a level way beyond superstition. I think there are many mod combos with their own problems but I think these rules cover most CTDs caused by the raw game engine. I think the root case for all fails addressed for above are caused by ships colliding with land, ships or other installations after they lost the waypoints they were spawned with but lost in the save. All this has been very hard to prove, there was one post (cant remember where) from someone recording a DD colliding with the same blockship from multiple replays of the same save. He said he eventually found it on the external cam and played it over watching the collision and CTD happen simultaneously repeatably.

An experiance I had was similar but I couldnt see the event. The game always "seemed" to crash around but not exactly the same time while I was stalking near a harbor. Eventually I did something decisive (and silly) to give away my position and no matter how I gave away my position the game did not crash. Im thinking all the patrols ran after me, therefore preventing whatever collision they would do to make the CTD

03-16-16, 11:35 PM	#1
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Is it really true SH5 crashes more in Campaign then SH3? I read awhile back that its very common for SH5 (i am assuming no mods) to crash while playing the campaign compared to SH3 (no mods), in other words is the Stock SH3 campaign more stable then the Stock SH5 campaign? I would like to know if this is really true from people that have played campaigns on both games SH3 and SH5. Thanks for any info! Lonny

03-17-16, 04:38 AM	#3
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	I've encountered no CTDs since installing TWoS. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

03-17-16, 12:44 PM	#4
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I don't recall ever having any CTDs in a SH3, 4 or 5 campaign. That said, most CTDs IMHO are caused by conflicting mods and/or corrupted saves. __________________

03-17-16, 02:17 PM	#5
siege00 Officer Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 237 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 0	It's been so long since I've played SH3 or 5 unmodded, but IIRC SH3 was more stable. Nowadays, playing with both (modded), I'd say SH5 crashes more often, but TWoS is pretty darn stable, especially if you read the tips about maintaining stability. __________________ SH3 Guide: S3G by BLITZKR!EG Currently - SH5 TWoS - SH3 GWX + MaGui and more - SH3 LSH 2015 + Ahnenerbe's Gui

03-20-16, 07:23 AM	#7
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Hi guys I have been playing The Wolves Of Steel since July 2015. To date I have counted 124 manual game saves from my log book and never had a ctd. Go about it the right way and SH5 is very stable. Peter __________________ LSH3-2015 <> TUTORIALS <> ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW <> ALL IN ONE PLACE SH4 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS SH5 <> TUTORIALS <> HOW TO DO IT <> INFORMATION <> DOWNLOAD LINKS Always Here To Help A Fellow 'Subber' \| Need An Answer to A Question Just Send Me A PM

03-17-16, 04:36 AM	#2
Niume Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Lithuania Posts: 1,637 Downloads: 503 Uploads: 2	Sh5 does crashes more its **** sh5 poop

03-20-16, 07:04 AM	#6
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the replys, so it almost sounds if a MOD for SH5 makes the game more stable, interesting, where there any mods that fixed any stability problems with SH3? Thanks Again! Lonny

03-21-16, 01:35 PM	#8
MENTAT Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mediterranean Posts: 156 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	I still prefer SH3 over SH5 for numerous reasons. Reliability is one of them. __________________ Games are never finished. They are abandoned.

03-22-16, 12:28 AM	#9
Lonny007 Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 132 Downloads: 982 Uploads: 0	Wow THEBERBSTER thats great to hear, sounds like its very possible to have a very stable SH5 then, good to know. Thanks for everyones input! Lonny

03-27-16, 06:03 PM	#10
Pirate Roberts Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm finding GWX SH3 is incredibly stable. Since I started following the simple saving rules 1. no saves within 55KM of land 2. no saves while in contact (map contacts are OK) 3. no saves within 55km of port. 4. no saves within 12km of sinking ships. I know this has been covered endlessly to a level way beyond superstition. I think there are many mod combos with their own problems but I think these rules cover most CTDs caused by the raw game engine. I think the root case for all fails addressed for above are caused by ships colliding with land, ships or other installations after they lost the waypoints they were spawned with but lost in the save. All this has been very hard to prove, there was one post (cant remember where) from someone recording a DD colliding with the same blockship from multiple replays of the same save. He said he eventually found it on the external cam and played it over watching the collision and CTD happen simultaneously repeatably. An experiance I had was similar but I couldnt see the event. The game always "seemed" to crash around but not exactly the same time while I was stalking near a harbor. Eventually I did something decisive (and silly) to give away my position and no matter how I gave away my position the game did not crash. Im thinking all the patrols ran after me, therefore preventing whatever collision they would do to make the CTD